If Clinton would enter the race now, how would she do?
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« on: December 02, 2019, 02:56:18 PM »

If Clinton would enter the race now, how would she do? To make this easier, she has a very strong December debate
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2019, 11:16:54 PM »

10 to 15%
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2019, 11:23:27 PM »

She probably wins over a fragmented field, to be honest. Biden's support collapses and coalesces almost entirely around her, and she wins over some (but not most/all) of the wavering anti-Biden/Sanders swing voters that have in turn propelled Harris, Warren and Buttigieg to varying heights. I think it's too late for her to be on the ballot in some states, but she romps on Super Tuesday in the states she could be on the ballot.

It's not going to happen, though.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 11:24:35 PM »

She wouldn't win the nomination, but she'd win over the hearts of millions of Americans. We love you Hillary! Purple heart
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 11:41:12 PM »

0 chance. She wants the Dems to win and Ginsberg seat is at stake as well as the Senate
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2019, 12:04:53 AM »

Badly.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2019, 12:04:53 AM »
« Edited: December 03, 2019, 12:08:43 AM by #Klobmentum »

Honestly, she'd probably be competing for first against Biden and Bernie in a three way race. There's a good 15%-20% of democrats who absolutely love her and would vote for her in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2019, 12:11:57 AM »

She’d already have missed several important deadlines and would not be on the ballots for example in NH, AL, AR, CA, FL, SC, MI, TN ...

Besides, she would suck.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2019, 12:14:05 AM »

Badly, she’s alienated too many people by losing so many times and the General mood is not in her favor.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2019, 12:17:42 AM »

Ask 1960 Democratic nominee Adlai Stevenson.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 12:36:38 AM »

Badly, she’s alienated too many people by losing so many times and the General mood is not in her favor.
Two is “so many times”? Especially one where she basically split the vote 50/50 and the other where her opponent was aided by a foreign power. LOL. She has alienated the media and activist Twitter but old Black people across the South and resistance white women freaked out by Warren’s policies would back her in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2019, 01:11:11 AM »

She'd do decently due to sheer name recognition and those who connected with her the last two times she ran. But, she's missed deadlines in several primary states. I doubt she can win without them.

Regardless, she is not going to run.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2019, 05:32:15 AM »

She'd miss a lot of ballots and mostly just fracture Warren and Biden's support.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 08:27:22 AM »

Badly, she’s alienated too many people by losing so many times and the General mood is not in her favor.
Two is “so many times”? Especially one where she basically split the vote 50/50 and the other where her opponent was aided by a foreign power. LOL. She has alienated the media and activist Twitter but old Black people across the South and resistance white women freaked out by Warren’s policies would back her in a heartbeat.

and which of these group you belong? and she is very unlikeable. she had full support of media and democratic machine both times and lost.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2019, 09:32:50 AM »

No idea, but she'd have my support before Biden at this point...not something I thought I'd say back in 2016 when Biden was higher-energy.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2019, 11:52:12 AM »

She might be able to get to 10% without Biden in the race, but with Biden in, she'd be lucky to get to 3-4%. Either way, a party obsessed with finding someone to beat Trump isn't going to nominate the very person who lost to Trump. Democrats might be slow learners, but they're not nearly that slow.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2019, 05:36:16 PM »

Badly, she’s alienated too many people by losing so many times and the General mood is not in her favor.
Two is “so many times”? Especially one where she basically split the vote 50/50 and the other where her opponent was aided by a foreign power. LOL. She has alienated the media and activist Twitter but old Black people across the South and resistance white women freaked out by Warren’s policies would back her in a heartbeat.

Dude, not only did she lose to an egotistical, bombastic billionaire with absolutely no qualifications, experience or good character, but she also had to fight hard to overcome a socialist, possibly atheist senator in his mid-70s who is from a tiny, rural state in New England and never should have gotten the support he did.

That's two strikes straight out the gate.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2019, 05:40:08 PM »

She would encounter a firewall of Democrats like me who would vote for just about anyone to stop her from getting the nomination again.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2019, 06:00:44 PM »

She would win, and with Kamala's early exit, it seems like an entrance from her is more likely.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2019, 06:40:35 PM »

She wouldn't get into the next debate. Getting four polls by a week from Thursday when she isn't going to be mentioned on any poll currently in the field would be a killer. There just isn't the volume of polling to pull that off...I don't think there will be four qualifying polls between now and then.

She will also not be able to be on the ballot in Alabama, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, New Hampshire, Tennessee, or Utah. That's 9 states, including 3 of the nation's largest delegate hauls in CA, FL, and IL. She's about to miss South Carolina (deadline is tomorrow) and Texas (second largest delegate haul) unless she joins right away.

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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2019, 06:50:27 PM »

If she joined today and registered for every state with registration still open, she'd be locked out of 1,115/3,979 pledged delegates, or 28%.

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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2019, 06:53:50 PM »

5% at most. She is definitely seen as a martyr to many Democrats, but many of those same Democrats and even more who don't see her that way are probably ready to move on and give another candidate a chance though. Honestly, if she were to join the race (which she won't) I'd probably support her at this point.
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