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« on: October 07, 2019, 08:33:21 AM »

I'm appalled by the constant lying  y Donald Trump but also the increasing number of republicans talking points that peddling these lies.

There's no right to wrong anymore. If I lied as a child I got dealt with. They lie be a use republican voters believe every lie that comes out of their mouth.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2019, 08:46:19 AM »

I don't think "making lying in America acceptable" is the right way to phrase it.

What the Republicans (with Mr. Trump at their head) are doing is legitimizing and empowering the fraction of Americans who reject the Enlightenment idea of objective truth.

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2019, 09:02:08 AM »

the Enlightenment idea of objective truth.
People didn’t believe there was any objective truth in the Middle Ages?
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2019, 09:45:48 AM »

the Enlightenment idea of objective truth.
People didn’t believe there was any objective truth in the Middle Ages?
Not in an inductive way. No one person could learn truth on their own without making assumptions that would usually make independent investigations unnecessary to most people
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2019, 09:46:50 AM »

the Enlightenment idea of objective truth.
People didn’t believe there was any objective truth in the Middle Ages?

While we're all trolling:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominalism
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2019, 10:16:05 AM »

I don't think "making lying in America acceptable" is the right way to phrase it.

What the Republicans (with Mr. Trump at their head) are doing is legitimizing and empowering the fraction of Americans who reject the Enlightenment idea of objective truth.



You can show a Trump supporter a video of Trump baltantly lying or saying something racist, and they'll insist that he isn't saying the thing he's literally saying in the video. It's utterly terrifying and unlike anything I've seen in American politics in my lifetime.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2019, 11:07:06 AM »

I don't think "making lying in America acceptable" is the right way to phrase it.

What the Republicans (with Mr. Trump at their head) are doing is legitimizing and empowering the fraction of Americans who reject the Enlightenment idea of objective truth.



You can show a Trump supporter a video of Trump baltantly lying or saying something racist, and they'll insist that he isn't saying the thing he's literally saying in the video. It's utterly terrifying and unlike anything I've seen in American politics in my lifetime.

For example, Kevin McCarthy saying, "You watch what the president said -- he's not saying China should investigate"


For the record, here is Mr. Trump saying China should start an investigation into the Bidens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2019, 02:01:34 PM »


Hopefully they are bringing this problem to the forefront of public thought and morality so that we don't get caught up in the con, but rather we look to our own moral inner compass and act accordingly. And hopefully also, we point out to our children that Trump is wrong, and that being a respectful moral citizen is the way to go. People abhor what Trump stands for. Nobody with any integrity is going to embrace his evil.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2019, 02:48:01 PM »

As I have said before, Trump is the Sarah Palin of 2008. The polls are showing a 2008 feel to it good reason. Due to the fact Trump is imitating the mistake filled campaign of Palin. Its not an accident, Palin endorced Trump over Cruz in 2016.

This is why people who disliked Palin, dislike Trump: Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Bill Kristol and Charles KRAUTHAMMER
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2019, 07:01:42 AM »

How on earth could two such extremely similar people like Donald Trump and Sarah Palin would campaign similarly?
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2019, 10:23:38 AM »

Above all, I would teach him* to tell the truth. Truth-telling, I have found, is the key to responsible citizenship. The thousands of criminals I have seen in 40 years of law enforcement have had one thing in common: Every single one was a liar.

J. Edgar Hoover

Hoover's successors have been turning the lies of Donald Trump into a personal calamity. The FBI technique is to round up as many people tangentially involved in a crime. Innocent people clear themselves and as a bonus give out tidbits of incriminating statements about someone else. Guilty people tell lies in futile efforts to trick the police into believing in the person's innocence. Contradictions trip up the fellow who lies about innocence that he lacks.

"I was never at the scene of the crime" -- so why are your finger prints on the Venetian blinds that you peered through when you heard the siren of the ambulance or fire truck?

"I never talked to the alleged hit-man" -- so why did you make several phone calls to his phone number?

"I wasn't involved in the bank robbery" -- so why did you pay for liquor with marked bills?

"I did not fire the gun" -- so why did you have powder residue?

"I did not embezzle from my employer" -- so why did you wire amounts to your bank account? 

This is far more effective than beating confessions out of suspects.   




*J. Edgar Hoover was a male-chauvinist pig, but this applies also to female children too.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2019, 11:04:48 AM »

Can you please issue a grammatical correction? It's "Are," not "Is."
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