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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2005, 07:53:04 AM »

I was against the war from the beginning and we have now seen that there were good reason to be skeptical. 2˝ years later we have not found any WMD and we seem to have brought terrorism with us, not stopped it. Having said that I feel good about the removal of Saddam, who was a horrible dictator, but seeing those photos from the prisons of the new Iraqi regime makes me sick. They seem to be just as bad as under Saddam, and even worse American torture of Iraqi prisoners. Having said all of this I still believe that America and the coalition has a lot of work to do. If we leave too soon the lives of thousands will be lost. America will not only lose respect, but also the war on terrorism if Iraq is lost. I am also sure that the troops won’t be there a second longer than they are needed to. Now we have to pay the price for the stupidity of an poorly planned war. America went into a region without sufficient knowledge of understanding of the Iraq.
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2005, 03:58:15 PM »

Bush is a flip flopper. 1st he says that we are going into iraq to destroy saddams WMD because it was a threat to american interests. Then that idea lost popular support so it was... We went in iraq to topple a brutal regime and spread democracy. Well after that idea lost popular support it was, we are in iraq because we have too much invested in it and we dont want our troops sacrifice to be in vain. Now it is... Dont question why we are there because it is unpatriotic and degrades the moral of our troops.
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2005, 04:04:42 PM »

Bush is a flip flopper. 1st he says that we are going into iraq to destroy saddams WMD because it was a threat to american interests. Then that idea lost popular support so it was... We went in iraq to topple a brutal regime and spread democracy. Well after that idea lost popular support it was, we are in iraq because we have too much invested in it and we dont want our troops sacrifice to be in vain. Now it is... Dont question why we are there because it is unpatriotic and degrades the moral of our troops.

Actually my son, he listed 5 reasons for going into Iraq BEFORE sending in the troops.  WMD's was just one of the 5 reasons.  Thanks for playing, please try again next time.
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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2005, 04:11:33 PM »

Bush is a flip flopper. 1st he says that we are going into iraq to destroy saddams WMD because it was a threat to american interests. Then that idea lost popular support so it was... We went in iraq to topple a brutal regime and spread democracy. Well after that idea lost popular support it was, we are in iraq because we have too much invested in it and we dont want our troops sacrifice to be in vain. Now it is... Dont question why we are there because it is unpatriotic and degrades the moral of our troops.

Actually my son, he listed 5 reasons for going into Iraq BEFORE sending in the troops.  WMD's was just one of the 5 reasons.  Thanks for playing, please try again next time.

Reality Check... The american people dont buy his bullsh!t reasons anymore. They are sick and fed up with all his lies.
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2005, 04:26:38 PM »

Bush is a flip flopper. 1st he says that we are going into iraq to destroy saddams WMD because it was a threat to american interests. Then that idea lost popular support so it was... We went in iraq to topple a brutal regime and spread democracy. Well after that idea lost popular support it was, we are in iraq because we have too much invested in it and we dont want our troops sacrifice to be in vain. Now it is... Dont question why we are there because it is unpatriotic and degrades the moral of our troops.

Actually my son, he listed 5 reasons for going into Iraq BEFORE sending in the troops.  WMD's was just one of the 5 reasons.  Thanks for playing, please try again next time.

Reality Check... The american people dont buy his bullsh!t reasons anymore. They are sick and fed up with all his lies.

hahaha . . . maybe you don't buy it, but that doesn't make it any less true.  Whether you care to accept that or not, it's up to you.  Obviously you've chosen the anti-Bush mentality, and nothing I can say or do can change that, but that doesn't mean you speak for the American people . . . just yourself.  Enjoy.
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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2005, 07:40:56 PM »

Bush is a flip flopper. 1st he says that we are going into iraq to destroy saddams WMD because it was a threat to american interests. Then that idea lost popular support so it was... We went in iraq to topple a brutal regime and spread democracy. Well after that idea lost popular support it was, we are in iraq because we have too much invested in it and we dont want our troops sacrifice to be in vain. Now it is... Dont question why we are there because it is unpatriotic and degrades the moral of our troops.

Actually my son, he listed 5 reasons for going into Iraq BEFORE sending in the troops.  WMD's was just one of the 5 reasons.  Thanks for playing, please try again next time.

Reality Check... The american people dont buy his bullsh!t reasons anymore. They are sick and fed up with all his lies.

hahaha . . . maybe you don't buy it, but that doesn't make it any less true.  Whether you care to accept that or not, it's up to you.  Obviously you've chosen the anti-Bush mentality, and nothing I can say or do can change that, but that doesn't mean you speak for the American people . . . just yourself.  Enjoy.

Well I guess around 60% of the american people agree with me at the present time which is good enough for me.
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2005, 07:58:56 PM »

Well I guess around 60% of the american people agree with me at the present time which is good enough for me.


Just goes to show how many people don't do their homework.  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2005, 09:37:44 PM »

Actually my son, he listed 5 reasons for going into Iraq BEFORE sending in the troops.  WMD's was just one of the 5 reasons.  Thanks for playing, please try again next time.

It was the FIRST reason.  The reason they sold the war to the American people on.  But you're right there were more reasons.  When one rational didn't work they had to move onto another and then another etc. 

"The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason," - Paul Wolfowitz

If you believe the war was a good thing you should be over there fighting it.  I couldn't imagine asking others to die for a cause and refusing to fight for it myself...
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2005, 11:20:14 PM »

Actually my son, he listed 5 reasons for going into Iraq BEFORE sending in the troops.  WMD's was just one of the 5 reasons.  Thanks for playing, please try again next time.

It was the FIRST reason.  The reason they sold the war to the American people on.  But you're right there were more reasons.  When one rational didn't work they had to move onto another and then another etc. 

That is your own opinion.  For those who actually followed the event from the beginning, we knew what was going to be involved in all the steps.  It's unfortunate that we have not yet found the large quantity of WMDs that we thought we would, but we did find many banned items there were priviously not known to be in Iraq's inventroy.  So your reasoning is wrong.

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That is correct.  It was the one concept that the majority of the population could relate with, but that doesn't mean all of the reasons for the war were not discussed prior to the war.  It just happened to be the one that got the most coverage.

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I'm too old to go back into service.  Sorry son.
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2005, 10:27:38 AM »

That is your own opinion.  For those who actually followed the event from the beginning, we knew what was going to be involved in all the steps.

Yeah I guess you're right.  It really was the intent of both you and Bushco to invade Iraq so that an Islamist Iranian puppet state could be created.  They were really open about that from day one.  I must be wrong...

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I know where to find them.  In hundreds of US military bases around the country. 

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Yeah and we tried to pretend they were there to build nukes...
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Well as long as you agree the war was sold to the American people on a lie.

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You are 43 or older?  Have you encouraged your children and grandchildren to go fight and die?
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2005, 11:32:43 AM »

Well I guess around 60% of the american people agree with me at the present time which is good enough for me.


Just goes to show how many people don't do their homework.  Smiley

Or it could be the 40% of people who are either not given the facts or are in denial.
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