Would support of universal healthcare and immigration restrictions give the GOP electoral dominance?

[Bootes Void]

I think this is winning strategy for republicans to have an electoral dominance in American politics. it's look Obamacare is likely to stick around especially since Trump lost the election, so the topic of healthcare will change.

Republicans also gained alot with Hispanics and Asians despite supporting a hardline immigration proving that you don't need to support open borders(exaggeration) to win over those votes

If the Republicans supported universal healthcare, some environmental measures along with immigration restrictions and conservative stances on cultural issues, they can be electorally dominant.

[TML]

I agree with the idea that a Republican Party that supports universal health care & accepts the scientific consensus on climate change (similar to most conservative parties in Europe and Canada) would be more appealing to a broader swath of the electorate. In fact, polls have consistently shown that universal health care and accepting the scientific consensus on climate change are popular even among self-proclaimed Republican voters.

[slothdem]

I used to think that if Republicans adopted this framework they would dominate politics in this country to the same degree that the Conservative Party dominates politics in the UK. And while it would certainly improve the GOP's current performance relative to the Democratic Party (i.e., the GOP is comfortably the minority party) I do not think they would be quite as dominant. And that's because in this country, college-educated whites + minorities is a majority. That coalition is not even close in the UK.

[有爭議嘅領土 of The Figgis Agency]

Republicans also gained alot with Hispanics and Asians despite supporting a hardline immigration proving that you don't need to support open borders(exaggeration) to win over those votes

Some of the gains were precisely due to the GOP’s hardline stances and rhetoric against illegal immigration. Naturalized citizens can register to vote, undocumented immigrants cannot.

[Chips]

I agree with the idea that a Republican Party that supports universal health care & accepts the scientific consensus on climate change (similar to most conservative parties in Europe and Canada) would be more appealing to a broader swath of the electorate. In fact, polls have consistently shown that universal health care and accepting the scientific consensus on climate change are popular even among self-proclaimed Republican voters.

This.

[Nightcore Nationalist]

It depends what you mean by "universal healthcare" but the GOP approvals are terrible on healthcare.  The GOP never had a plan for 8 years when they had the House, and the voters responded by voting them out in 2018.


The vast majority of GOP voters make between 40-90K a year.  It needs to help these people, not the people who run the CATO institute and National Review if it actually wants to win elections.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I used to think that if Republicans adopted this framework they would dominate politics in this country to the same degree that the Conservative Party dominates politics in the UK. And while it would certainly improve the GOP's current performance relative to the Democratic Party (i.e., the GOP is comfortably the minority party) I do not think they would be quite as dominant. And that's because in this country, college-educated whites + minorities is a majority. That coalition is not even close in the UK.

The GOP isn’t comfortably the minority party lol , to say so is lol worthy.

[AlterEgo]

I used to think that if Republicans adopted this framework they would dominate politics in this country to the same degree that the Conservative Party dominates politics in the UK. And while it would certainly improve the GOP's current performance relative to the Democratic Party (i.e., the GOP is comfortably the minority party) I do not think they would be quite as dominant. And that's because in this country, college-educated whites + minorities is a majority. That coalition is not even close in the UK.

Yes, but college-educated whites (and many minorities for that matter) would rebound hard to the GOP if universal healthcare and climate change were part of their platform.

[Ancestral Republican]

I used to think that if Republicans adopted this framework they would dominate politics in this country to the same degree that the Conservative Party dominates politics in the UK. And while it would certainly improve the GOP's current performance relative to the Democratic Party (i.e., the GOP is comfortably the minority party) I do not think they would be quite as dominant. And that's because in this country, college-educated whites + minorities is a majority. That coalition is not even close in the UK.

The GOP isn’t comfortably the minority party lol , to say so is lol worthy.

Yes they are. They've won one presidential popular vote in the last 30 years. They consistently lose overall Senate and House elections but stay in power because of gerrymandering and the Senate imbalance, making them uniquely unanswerable to voters and exposing them to influence from corrupt lobbyists.

The Republican Party is the joke of the modern world.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I used to think that if Republicans adopted this framework they would dominate politics in this country to the same degree that the Conservative Party dominates politics in the UK. And while it would certainly improve the GOP's current performance relative to the Democratic Party (i.e., the GOP is comfortably the minority party) I do not think they would be quite as dominant. And that's because in this country, college-educated whites + minorities is a majority. That coalition is not even close in the UK.

The GOP isn’t comfortably the minority party lol , to say so is lol worthy.

Yes they are. They've won one presidential popular vote in the last 30 years. They consistently lose overall Senate and House elections but stay in power because of gerrymandering and the Senate imbalance, making them uniquely unanswerable to voters and exposing them to influence from corrupt lobbyists.

The Republican Party is the joke of the modern world.

The popular vote doenst matter

[AlterEgo]

No, because then they would lose a lot of their existing supporters

Poll after poll shows that a majority of Republicans favor healthcare reform, so I'm not sure why you think this would be such a losing strategy.

Sure, a few low-propensity voters, who might not vote for anyone not named Trump anyway, might go back to not voting. However, those numbers are dwarfed by the number of suburbanites who would be Republicans were it not for the GOP's position on healthcare and education.

[Beet]

Yes, an economically populist, socially right wing plank is potent enough to be what brings authoritarian strongman politics to the US.

[Nightcore Nationalist]

I used to think that if Republicans adopted this framework they would dominate politics in this country to the same degree that the Conservative Party dominates politics in the UK. And while it would certainly improve the GOP's current performance relative to the Democratic Party (i.e., the GOP is comfortably the minority party) I do not think they would be quite as dominant. And that's because in this country, college-educated whites + minorities is a majority. That coalition is not even close in the UK.

The GOP isn’t comfortably the minority party lol , to say so is lol worthy.

It is currently in the minority, narrowly.  But the GOP faces a far steeper path to winning a majority in the House and Presidency than their opposition party does, due to simple mathematics-they have more voters (albeit less reliable to turnout).

The theory advanced by others and myself is that the GOP economic policy needs to cater to the rank and file GOP voters in the year of our lord 2021, not the GOP voters from 1994 or 2003.  The Paul Ryans/Nikki Haleys/Ben Shapiros still believe that, despite a fundamental shift in the GOP's coalition you can run with a platform that barely worked from decade's past.  They're wrong.

Sean Trende delves into this often in various articles, but Bush's 2004 re-election victory is extremely underwhelming for a wartime incumbent president with a solid economy- a mere 50K votes in Ohio get him to 286 EVs despite a commanding pop vote win.  And when you factor in the amount of demographic shift that's occurred since then, 2004 looks simply pathetic.

[Alcibiades]

If Nixon had managed to get universal healthcare passed as he had wanted to do before he had to resign, it would have spared the GOP a lot of trouble down the years.