Should Dems seriously contest Wisconsin's 1st congressional district?

[Boobs]

I'd trade a split Milwaukee for Austin to have its own Democratic House seat in Texas.

Don't worry Austin will have its own democratic vote sink CD after 2021

Travis County is at 1.25 million people now. It'll probably warrant two vote sinks, Austin and then Travis+Bastrop or Hays, or Round Rock in Wilco.

[Gass3268]

I should note that in my map, the vast majority of the City of Milwaukee stays together. Only the awkward western arms and a bit of the south (these areas are the most competitive area of the city too, fyi) is added to the first district.

[Frenchrepublican]

I should note that in my map, the vast majority of the City of Milwaukee stays together. Only the awkward western arms and a bit of the south (these areas are the most competitive area of the city too, fyi) is added to the first district.

Yeah, but there is no good reason to split Sheybogan County and you can draw a entire CD inside Milwaukee county

[Gass3268]

I should note that in my map, the vast majority of the City of Milwaukee stays together. Only the awkward western arms and a bit of the south (these areas are the most competitive area of the city too, fyi) is added to the first district.

Yeah, but there is no good reason to split Sheybogan County and you can draw a entire CD inside Milwaukee county

My map splits Milwaukee County two times, compared to the current map which splits it 4 times.

[Frenchrepublican]

I should note that in my map, the vast majority of the City of Milwaukee stays together. Only the awkward western arms and a bit of the south (these areas are the most competitive area of the city too, fyi) is added to the first district.

Yeah, but there is no good reason to split Sheybogan County and you can draw a entire CD inside Milwaukee county

My map splits Milwaukee County two times, compared to the current map which splits it 4 times.

I'm absolutely not defending the 2011 map nevertheless I think that when you can draw a entire CD inside a county, because this county has a large enough population to accomodate a full district, you should do it (my argument applies to Oklahoma County / Hamilton County, OH / Travis County which are large enough to have a full CD inside their boundaries)

[IceSpear]

Leah Vukmir carried it, LOL. No.

[IceSpear]

Somehow, Leah Vukmir won the District in a huge upset last year, which would indicate that its completely unwinnable for Democrats in general at the Congressional level.

Huge upset? I predicted she had a good chance at winning it and you said I was insane, lol.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

If Bryce couldn't come within single digits in a D wave, I don't see how anyone else will win. So no.

He wasn't the solution. He was the problem.

But...but...but Atlas told me the voters find deadbeat Dads sympathetic because it proves they struggle to pay their bills like #RealAmericans.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

The only reason people cared about the race is because Dems wanted to oust the Speaker (even Bryce's supposed successful fundraising was largely leftover momentum from before Ryan confirmed his retirement). Now Ryan is yesterday's man, it's just one in a small army of seats that would require a perfect storm to win over.

[VPH]

Bryce turned out to be one of the most overhyped candidates of the cycle. He was a deadbeat failed state senate candidate who made an astoundingly good video that captured the anti-Paul Ryan mood of the Democrats. Maybe Cathy Myers could have come closer, but I don't think it's the kind of district where Democrats stand a strong chance. You never know what might unfold, so it's best to recruit somebody serious, but it shouldn't be a place where we prioritize sending resources to.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

No.

[We Live in Black and White]

No reason to waste money here at this point, barring a freak Paul Nehlen primary win or somesuch. Better to shore up our vulnerable districts and pick off the stragglers we missed in 2018.

[TJ in Oregon]

I should note that in my map, the vast majority of the City of Milwaukee stays together. Only the awkward western arms and a bit of the south (these areas are the most competitive area of the city too, fyi) is added to the first district.

Yeah, but there is no good reason to split Sheybogan County and you can draw a entire CD inside Milwaukee county

My map splits Milwaukee County two times, compared to the current map which splits it 4 times.

While the current map is a Republican gerrymander of course, yours is a Democratic gerrymander. The two things that really stick out are the appendage attached to Eau Claire, and of course, the arm coming out of Milwaukee to the north. WI-7 really needs to be untangled in that map, a bit like it does in real life.

IMO a neutral drawing of Milwaukee County is going to start with the city itself, then take in the entirety of the North Shore (as it is boxed in) and then start on other Milwaukee County suburbs.

A neutral drawing of Madison is simple, start with Dane County and then figure out later what else needs to go with it depending on how the rest turns out.

I'd also prefer starting with Brown and Outagmie Counties in WI-8.

Then the rest of the map sorts of fills itself out. The thing that is hard about it is that WI-1 has to decide what else to grab after Kenosha, Racine, and Walworth.

[MapModerate]

No. Walworth county refuses to trend D.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The only reason people cared about the race is because Dems wanted to oust the Speaker (even Bryce's supposed successful fundraising was largely leftover momentum from before Ryan confirmed his retirement). Now Ryan is yesterday's man, it's just one in a small army of seats that would require a perfect storm to win over.

Also Bryce's meme status, even though he was objectively a terrible candidate.

[Perlen vor den Schweinen]

I've spent a lot of money and I've spent a lot of time.

The stuff we did in Racine was a waste of yours and mine.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The only reason people cared about the race is because Dems wanted to oust the Speaker (even Bryce's supposed successful fundraising was largely leftover momentum from before Ryan confirmed his retirement). Now Ryan is yesterday's man, it's just one in a small army of seats that would require a perfect storm to win over.

Also Bryce's meme status, even though he was objectively a terrible candidate.

I seem to remember you taking a different position on Bryce when IceSpear and I called him out for the fraud he was and yet Atlas was all aboard the Bryce #populist train

No? I never thought he was a good candidate. I might've once pointed out the child support thing was overblown (the amount he owed wasn't really that high) but I never argued he was a really strong candidate or a good fit for the district.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The only reason people cared about the race is because Dems wanted to oust the Speaker (even Bryce's supposed successful fundraising was largely leftover momentum from before Ryan confirmed his retirement). Now Ryan is yesterday's man, it's just one in a small army of seats that would require a perfect storm to win over.

Also Bryce's meme status, even though he was objectively a terrible candidate.

I seem to remember you taking a different position on Bryce when IceSpear and I called him out for the fraud he was and yet Atlas was all aboard the Bryce #populist train

Pretty sure I was the first person here to call out Bryce for the child support stuff and argue it made him a terrible candidate.

[MapModerate]

The only reason people cared about the race is because Dems wanted to oust the Speaker (even Bryce's supposed successful fundraising was largely leftover momentum from before Ryan confirmed his retirement). Now Ryan is yesterday's man, it's just one in a small army of seats that would require a perfect storm to win over.

Also Bryce's meme status, even though he was objectively a terrible candidate.

I seem to remember you taking a different position on Bryce when IceSpear and I called him out for the fraud he was and yet Atlas was all aboard the Bryce #populist train

Roast him! Epicc!!!!!!!!@!!!!!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Also the sort of people backing Bryce's memes status weren't the targets of this "populist" meme (whoever they are) but rather dumb #Resistance liberals who basically believed that running a blue collar worker with a mustache is all that's needed to win over working class whites and thus would propel him to victory. In a district that's not even particularly working class to begin with.

[Boobs]

dumb #Resistance liberals who basically believed that running a blue collar worker with a mustache is all that's needed to win over working class whites

You are describing all of Atlas.

[Badger]

Probably not. Wait until after redistricting. I'm guessing WI-03 gets redder while WI-01 gets more competitive.

This here is correct.

[Badger]

I should note that in my map, the vast majority of the City of Milwaukee stays together. Only the awkward western arms and a bit of the south (these areas are the most competitive area of the city too, fyi) is added to the first district.

Yeah, but there is no good reason to split Sheybogan County and you can draw a entire CD inside Milwaukee county

My map splits Milwaukee County two times, compared to the current map which splits it 4 times.

While the current map is a Republican gerrymander of course, yours is a Democratic gerrymander. The two things that really stick out are the appendage attached to Eau Claire, and of course, the arm coming out of Milwaukee to the north. WI-7 really needs to be untangled in that map, a bit like it does in real life.

IMO a neutral drawing of Milwaukee County is going to start with the city itself, then take in the entirety of the North Shore (as it is boxed in) and then start on other Milwaukee County suburbs.

A neutral drawing of Madison is simple, start with Dane County and then figure out later what else needs to go with it depending on how the rest turns out.

I'd also prefer starting with Brown and Outagmie Counties in WI-8.

Then the rest of the map sorts of fills itself out. The thing that is hard about it is that WI-1 has to decide what else to grab after Kenosha, Racine, and Walworth.

A map with fairly contiguous and compact lines that results in a probable 4 / 4 split with competitive districts is a democratic gerrymander??

You guys have really been spoiled this last decade.