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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2019, 08:08:45 AM »

She should drop out and endorse Bernie.

She didn't endorse him in 2016
And she won't do it in 2020.

The only true heroes are the ones who did in 2016.
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2019, 09:38:39 AM »

Harris campaign is a juggernaut and matured more quickly than others had imagined. The ones like Booker, Beto and Brown all delayed their decision and it cost them.

Now, Harris is doing the online donation thing that helped Obama and Hilary nomination

I never thought Warren had a real chance to begin with.

Biden & Bernie are still above Harris.  But I think as the campaign continues it will end up being a drawn out primary between Harris, Beto, & Bernie.  ...I think Biden's campaign will fade... and he may even decide to not get in... or get in, only to back out before Iowa if his poll numbers begin to recede a fair amount (personally I think it is smarter for Biden to stay out, keep his good legacy, and serve as Secretary of State for whoever wins.... which is a job he would actually probably enjoy (in a day to day sense) as much as being President.
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2019, 11:22:50 AM »

I think she should leave after Iowa and endorse Bernie. Then she should be Sec of Treasury, she’s probably the best person in America for the job.
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2019, 12:03:48 PM »

Meanwhile... Warren makes noise about breaking up big tech companies.

https://www.wired.com/story/elizabeth-warren-break-up-amazon-facebook-google/

Won't make her many friends with the big boys, but does up her cred with folks who've been unhappy with the growing power of these companies.

That's the thing. She isn't done because she keeps introducing new ideas. Say what you will about her electability, but she definitely is the most policy and idea-driven candidate in the field. Yes, even moreso than Sanders, actually it isn't really close in that regard. That's why I'll always prefer over him, even as he has essentially crippled any path to the nomination that she could have had.

Paradoxically, this might be why it's better for her to stay in the Senate. Even as a senator, she could get a lot done with a Democratic Trifecta.

Why would you confine one of the best policy minds in government to a position in the Senate where she'd probably be in the minority and would definitely be stifled by a filibuster?

It's baffling to me how many people would prefer Sanders to Warren when all evidence points to Warren being much more competent than Sanders. Seriously. Why would anybody expect Sanders to be a better administrator of the executive? It's further evidence of how incredibly misogynistic this country is in general and our views on governing are specifically if the majority of people think giving angry inspirational speeches like Sanders does makes you more qualified than being a woman with the resume Warren has. It's giving me 2016 vibes all over again.
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2019, 07:38:34 PM »

Meanwhile... Warren makes noise about breaking up big tech companies.

https://www.wired.com/story/elizabeth-warren-break-up-amazon-facebook-google/

Won't make her many friends with the big boys, but does up her cred with folks who've been unhappy with the growing power of these companies.

That's the thing. She isn't done because she keeps introducing new ideas. Say what you will about her electability, but she definitely is the most policy and idea-driven candidate in the field. Yes, even moreso than Sanders, actually it isn't really close in that regard. That's why I'll always prefer over him, even as he has essentially crippled any path to the nomination that she could have had.

Paradoxically, this might be why it's better for her to stay in the Senate. Even as a senator, she could get a lot done with a Democratic Trifecta.

Why would you confine one of the best policy minds in government to a position in the Senate where she'd probably be in the minority and would definitely be stifled by a filibuster?

It's baffling to me how many people would prefer Sanders to Warren when all evidence points to Warren being much more competent than Sanders. Seriously. Why would anybody expect Sanders to be a better administrator of the executive? It's further evidence of how incredibly misogynistic this country is in general and our views on governing are specifically if the majority of people think giving angry inspirational speeches like Sanders does makes you more qualified than being a woman with the resume Warren has. It's giving me 2016 vibes all over again.

Wholeheartedly seconded!
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2019, 07:53:41 PM »

Although I think she has no chance... I do agree that she is much more competent- policy wise- than Bernie. (Bernie just has more political talent).

Regarding Secr of Tres ... Unless Dems take back the Senate in 2020- she would prob never get confirmed.
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2019, 08:12:48 PM »

Meanwhile... Warren makes noise about breaking up big tech companies.

https://www.wired.com/story/elizabeth-warren-break-up-amazon-facebook-google/

Won't make her many friends with the big boys, but does up her cred with folks who've been unhappy with the growing power of these companies.

That's the thing. She isn't done because she keeps introducing new ideas. Say what you will about her electability, but she definitely is the most policy and idea-driven candidate in the field. Yes, even moreso than Sanders, actually it isn't really close in that regard. That's why I'll always prefer over him, even as he has essentially crippled any path to the nomination that she could have had.

And even if/when Warren doesn’t end up winning the nomination, she’ll still push Bernie and the Denocratic Party itself to either adopt or expand upon those issues. In some ways, she’s arguably to Bernie’s left! Kind of a shame beause I sincerely do like Warren but electability isn’t her forte in contrast to Sanders.
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2019, 08:49:35 AM »

She mishandled Donald Trump's taunts about "Pocahontas". That is trouble. Obama mishandled Trump's "birther" nonsense, and that egged Trump to run for President.

Millions still believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2019, 08:58:03 AM »

She mishandled Donald Trump's taunts about "Pocahontas". That is trouble. Obama mishandled Trump's "birther" nonsense, and that egged Trump to run for President.

Millions still believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

Millions who would never vote for a Democrat anyway.
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2019, 09:35:25 AM »

She mishandled Donald Trump's taunts about "Pocahontas". That is trouble. Obama mishandled Trump's "birther" nonsense, and that egged Trump to run for President.

Millions still believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

True. Obama at least had charisma. Warren has none. If Warren had Obama like charisma the dna thing would be a nothing burger. Warren doesn,t have the political instincts.
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2019, 02:55:54 PM »

It’s only March.  Let’s wait a little before writing her political obituary..
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2019, 07:13:01 PM »

She mishandled Donald Trump's taunts about "Pocahontas". That is trouble. Obama mishandled Trump's "birther" nonsense, and that egged Trump to run for President.

Millions still believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

Obama mishandled it? If anything he made Trump and the conspiracy theorists look like bigger idiots when they wouldn't accept his birth certificate and started claiming it was a forgery. Trump was probably inspired more out of spite towards Obama's White House Correspondent's Dinner speech than out of stubbornness for his conspiracy theory. The birther movement was basically Trump sewing the seeds to run for President and become a right wing idol the whole time, no matter how Obama reacted to it, Trump was probably going to run for President. I don't want to blame him for Trump too much. There are so many reasons why Trump rose to power, I don't think Trump even knew that a perfect storm would whisk him into the White House.
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