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« on: January 01, 2019, 07:53:56 AM »
She even lost a county against Diehl.
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2019, 10:03:31 AM »
Cause she's controversial, and Rs enthusiastically voted against her. But...she got 60% and the township map was pretty blue, it doesn't matter all that much.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2019, 06:31:42 PM »
She is absolutely hated by Republicans in the state but at the same time not universally loved by state Democrats. The feeling that she was not interested in being Senator  was probably also a factor.
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2019, 06:34:28 PM »
The underperformance looks worse than the margin considering 3 percent went to an Indy wife beating Trumpist.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2019, 10:43:06 PM »
She didn't buy a single television advertisement.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 04:13:16 AM »
She isnt well known that much out of Boston
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 04:38:53 AM »
In terms of absolute percentage, Warren did basically the same as Hillary. Warren got 60.41% to Hillary’s 60.01%. I don’t know Diehl (or Ayyadurai fwiw), but I assume he wasn’t as bad as Trump.
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 08:51:37 AM »
Quote from: OneJ on January 02, 2019, 04:38:53 AM
In terms of absolute percentage, Warren did basically the same as Hillary. Warren got 60.41% to Hillary’s 60.01%. I don’t know Diehl (or Ayyadurai fwiw), but I assume he wasn’t as bad as Trump.

Diehl was pretty Trumpy but I don't know how much awareness people had of his personality or positions.
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 12:23:50 PM »
Huh Warren didnt underpreform Clinton...
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 12:50:36 PM »
Trump was uniquely bad in Massachusetts, Warren's performance was more along the lines of Obama 2008, which is still pretty good.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 12:53:51 PM »


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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 01:38:06 PM »
She did worse than Ed Markey in 2014.  She underperformed.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 03:30:18 PM »
I'd really like to look at the performances of Senators who just coast, running no TV ads, not campaigning etc. to ones who do. Klobuchar ran a bunch of ads and it paid off for her and so did Chris Murphy and he had nothing to prove. Gillibrand did the same as Warren phoning it in but she didn't seem to underpeform at all.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 11:38:09 PM »
Lol he's from plymouth county who cares?
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 11:47:33 PM »
Quote from: henster on January 02, 2019, 03:30:18 PM
I'd really like to look at the performances of Senators who just coast, running no TV ads, not campaigning etc. to ones who do. Klobuchar ran a bunch of ads and it paid off for her and so did Chris Murphy and he had nothing to prove. Gillibrand did the same as Warren phoning it in but she didn't seem to underpeform at all.

Well, Gillibrand also had an opponent who was totally phoning it in. She would not have massively overperformed the way she did if the Republican had actually tried (though she'd still probably have done better than Cuomo, who has some difficulties in multiple directions that Gillibrand does not have).
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2019, 12:54:55 PM »
Because she is not likeable.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2019, 01:58:38 PM »

Really? It is virtually unheard of for a winning Democrat to lose any county in Massachusetts (not counting 2012, when Brown lost by ~8%). Warren was the only statewide Democratic victor in 2018 to lose a county. Keep in mind that Democrats have swept Massachusetts's counties in every presidential election since 1992.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2019, 02:03:40 PM »

Interestingly Massachusetts was the only New England state Clinton carried all counties in.
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2019, 02:26:17 PM »
Among incumbent Democrats running statewide, she did by far the worst, running under the second weakest by 8 and the average by 15. None of them ran very active campaigns either. The primary culprit is simply that people don't like her and don't want to vote for her, to a degree stronger than any other 2020 contender.
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2019, 10:05:45 PM »
This is what Democratic presidential candidates have gotten in Massachusetts every election since 1996, working backward from 2016:

60.01%
60.67%
61.80%
61.94% (Kerry)
59.80%
61.47%

Warren got Presidential numbers rather than Massachusetts Democratic senator numbers. That's all.
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