Trump says Honduran caravan has "unknown Middle Easterners mixed in"
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« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2018, 10:46:06 PM »

Please to see Trump and Pence taking decisive action.

Please provide an example of any actual action - other than vomiting up American Nazi rhetoric - they have actually taken.
Is it really Nazism to care about safety?

Please provide an example of any actual action taken by Trump or his pet evangelical regarding this 'migrant caravan'. Since you brought up safety, please point out something they have actually done that would reduce the threat you claim this 'migrant caravan' poses.
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« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2018, 10:51:09 PM »

Please to see Trump and Pence taking decisive action.

Please provide an example of any actual action - other than vomiting up American Nazi rhetoric - they have actually taken.
Is it really Nazism to care about safety?
Answer my question, hofoid
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« Reply #77 on: October 27, 2018, 04:26:15 AM »

This is a political gold mine for the Republicans.

Distortion and lack of perspective aside, the photography of illegal immigrants knowingly planning to enter a particular country in 2 months time is going to make people's blood boil in the mean time.

Can we see the photos or video with regard to the Middle Eastern comments.
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« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2018, 04:53:48 AM »

This is a political gold mine for the Republicans.

Distortion and lack of perspective aside, the photography of illegal immigrants knowingly planning to enter a particular country in 2 months time is going to make people's blood boil in the mean time.

Can we see the photos or video with regard to the Middle Eastern comments.

I heard that they are coming here to have an abortion, get gay married, and burn an American flag while kneeling.
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« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2018, 07:44:50 AM »

What's the migrants point anyway ?

If Mexico hands them residence and work permits now, why would they still move on to the US ?

Economic migrants cannot pick and choose which country to go to, but take the offer of asylum in the neighbouring safe country. Mexico is safe.
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« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2018, 09:14:45 AM »

What's the migrants point anyway ?

If Mexico hands them residence and work permits now, why would they still move on to the US ?

Economic migrants cannot pick and choose which country to go to, but take the offer of asylum in the neighbouring safe country. Mexico is safe.

Their point is this:
http://time.com/5430436/migrant-caravan-mexico-guatemala-border/
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On the one hand, the United States cannot single-handedly fix all the world's ills. On the other, we have enjoyed a great deal of wealth and power for over a century and used it very irresponsibly with regard to our Central American neighbors. And on the third had, sheer practicality dictates that we ought to do everything we reasonably can to encourage prosperity, freedom, and representative government among all nations and peoples, but especially our neighbors. As an nation, we've pretty comprehensively failed on this last one.

I do not have any simple or certain suggestions for the best course of action. I'm no longer sure there even are good solutions to the state of the world. But I am very confident that Trump and the GOP are not improving things. (To be fair, immigration, migrant labor, and Latin American stability are not issues where the Dems have a good track record either.)
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« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2018, 04:53:44 PM »

This is a political gold mine for the Republicans.

Distortion and lack of perspective aside, the photography of illegal immigrants knowingly planning to enter a particular country in 2 months time is going to make people's blood boil in the mean time.

Can we see the photos or video with regard to the Middle Eastern comments.

Trump has outright, and idiotically, said that there is no proof. He's just blowing more fear-mongering smoke.
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« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2018, 05:16:35 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2018, 05:24:28 PM by TheDeadFlagBlues »

What's the migrants point anyway ?

If Mexico hands them residence and work permits now, why would they still move on to the US ?

Economic migrants cannot pick and choose which country to go to, but take the offer of asylum in the neighbouring safe country. Mexico is safe.

The migrants are seeking a better life for themselves and their children. Mexico is a beautiful country but it is also one with many problems and, ironically, it is more difficult for refugees to integrate in Mexico than it is in the United States, in many respects. There is intense anti-immigrant sentiment in southern Mexico and, of course, Mexico is not safe at all - it is an extremely violent society, even if the magnitude of violence is an order less than it is in Central America.

The United States has the capacity to allow many Central Americans to come to the US. They do not bring crime or drugs. The children of Latin American immigrants tend to be locked up at the rate of white Americans and their parents are locked up at a lower rate. They are not similar to MENA people in Europe, save your diatribes for situations where there's a grain of truth in your diatribes...
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