SB 2018-319: Atlasian School Safety Expansion Act (Final Vote)
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Mr. Reactionary
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2018, 05:40:09 PM »

To be fair, we can always come back to the act and amend it.

Wait... what? Why knowingly pass something bad now on a non-binding hope to fix it later? Shouldn't legislators only vote on good bills?
Also worth noting that this originated in the House, so there's no chance to amend this before it goes back to the House for an immediate vote.

Actually, this was technically reintroduced separately after being killed the first time, so I don't think that's the case.

On the other hand, I do think that the House has already passed this exact text.
Plenty of bills have been reintroduced then sent to the other chamber for an immediate vote. Especially if there were no changes in the wording.

I know we have to holdover bills across sessions for practicality reasons, but I have always been uncomfortable with treating a bill passed by 1 chamber during a session that is then amended by the other chamber in a different session as ineligible for amendment by  the originating chamber in the new session when sent back.
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2018, 05:41:38 PM »

To be fair, we can always come back to the act and amend it.
Lol, this is more deeply disturbing than what I did with the college bill vote!
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2018, 02:36:05 AM »

I think the most deeply disturbing thing of all here is that we are yet again going fail to do anything about school safety.
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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2018, 04:08:30 AM »

Aye.
We need safety in schools, and this has been held up too long.
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Mr. Reactionary
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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2018, 10:09:03 AM »

I think the most deeply disturbing thing of all here is that we are yet again going fail to do anything about school safety.

It should be a regional issue. And I do have a regional bill planned. Kind of hard though when the federal government purports to dictate the architecture and safety protocols of every local school in the country. Mandatory metal detectors in all schools is retarded. Mandatory fencing at all schools is retarded.
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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2018, 03:48:13 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2018, 04:00:26 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2018, 08:14:07 PM »

I feel pained to vote like this, but the implementation of metal detectors and checkpoints kills this for me.

NAY

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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2018, 11:02:06 AM »

Abstain

I think the most deeply disturbing thing of all here is that we are yet again going fail to do anything about school safety.

It should be a regional issue. And I do have a regional bill planned. Kind of hard though when the federal government purports to dictate the architecture and safety protocols of every local school in the country. Mandatory metal detectors in all schools is retarded. Mandatory fencing at all schools is retarded.

Well that creates a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the South were to move in this regard, it would discourage such federal action and dictates. However, I would note that we are not completely helpless in this regard either. Even in the context of Regional control of education, the Federal Government should be provide support and resources in a responsible and respectful manner (few strings attached).

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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2018, 11:45:58 AM »

Abstain

I think the most deeply disturbing thing of all here is that we are yet again going fail to do anything about school safety.

It should be a regional issue. And I do have a regional bill planned. Kind of hard though when the federal government purports to dictate the architecture and safety protocols of every local school in the country. Mandatory metal detectors in all schools is retarded. Mandatory fencing at all schools is retarded.

Well that creates a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the South were to move in this regard, it would discourage such federal action and dictates. However, I would note that we are not completely helpless in this regard either. Even in the context of Regional control of education, the Federal Government should be provide support and resources in a responsible and respectful manner (few strings attached).



I am moving to sponsor Spark's bill on the subject and intend to offer up a Regional alternative.
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2018, 04:45:12 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2018, 05:08:58 PM »

Fails 1-3-1, 1 NV

Aye: Lok
Nay: Zaybay, YE, Sestak
Abstain: Yankee

Not Voting: Lechasseur (voted too late)
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