Mr. Trump hits a new record

[Sir Mohamed]

POTUS told 15,000 lies since taking office. He's winning, big beague.


Trump has made over 15,000 false or misleading statements since becoming president, report says

Donald Trump has made more than 15,000 false or misleading claims since becoming president, according to a fact checking database.

The president surpassed that threshold on 10 December, having ramped up his rate throughout the past year, according to the Washington Post.

All told, Mr Trump had made 15,413 false or misleading claims as of that date, which was his 1,055th day in office. In 2017, Mr Trump made around 1,999 such claims, and in 2018 he made 5,689.

So, over the past year, Mr Trump has nearly doubled that rate, and made an average of 32 false or misleading claims a day in the 62 days prior to the most recent tally by the newspaper.

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[T'Chenka]

A liar, a con artist and a demagogue walk into a bar. The bartender says, "what can I get you to drink, Mr. President?"

[Meclazine for Israel]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

[Sir Mohamed]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

You don't know how international trade works, don't you? That Mr. Trump's tariffs are taxes on American consumers and that his trade war is killing farmers? And how NATO works either? Just a reminder that Article 5 of NATO was invoked only once in its 70 year history. And guess who received help?

To stop theft of intellectual property we need allies to join, or how you call it "parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer". Mr. Trump has done nothing in this regard because he was to busy writing love letters to a tyrant, cuddling with an Ex-KGB officer, inviting foreign interference and waging stupid twitter wars.

[T'Chenka]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

America used to be a Rick Sanchez internationally, for better or worse. Under Trump, it's a Jerry Smith. If you call that improvement, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Badger]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

Outside the delusions in his own and his fervent supporters imaginations oh, he is accomplished, nor even made tangible progress, on any of these points.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

Outside the delusions in his own and his fervent supporters imaginations oh, he is accomplished, nor even made tangible progress, on any of these points.

If Trump is seen as the most important figure of the 21st century 100 years from now, it will be due to his role in the dismantling of the post-WWII Western world order. A world order that saw the defeat of the Eastern Bloc and the near-end of open war between developed nations. He didn't start this mass movement, but he lent it legitimacy using the bully pulpit of the American Presidency.

Maybe we get something better? Maybe the early-21st century world order was unsustainable? My hunch is that imperfect as it is, pulling that rug out will cause far more destruction than leaving it in place.

This is all happening with or without Trump. But Trump became one of the central figures, and that will ultimately be his place in history. His ghost will loom over what follows like Otto von Bismarck loomed over WWI and WWII.

[brucejoel99]

He's lied about the weather on multiple occasions & argued with an actual f**king hurricane on Twitter.

Trump isn't capable of telling the truth & his supporters aren't capable of understanding it.

[Person Man]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

Outside the delusions in his own and his fervent supporters imaginations oh, he is accomplished, nor even made tangible progress, on any of these points.

If Trump is seen as the most important figure of the 21st century 100 years from now, it will be due to his role in the dismantling of the post-WWII Western world order. A world order that saw the defeat of the Eastern Bloc and the near-end of open war between developed nations. He didn't start this mass movement, but he lent it legitimacy using the bully pulpit of the American Presidency.

Maybe we get something better? Maybe the early-21st century world order was unsustainable? My hunch is that imperfect as it is, pulling that rug out will cause far more destruction than leaving it in place.

This is all happening with or without Trump. But Trump became one of the central figures, and that will ultimately be his place in history. His ghost will loom over what follows like Otto von Bismarck loomed over WWI and WWII.

The practical question is in a world that needs the post WW2 world order more than ever, what will come to replace it? A lot of your smarter MAGA people have said that the last 75 years proves that we can probably go back to 1938 or even 1913 because the consequences that the entire post-WW 2 system was made to avoid never came to fruition.

They say no one has exploded a nuke in 75 years and none of the countries we went directly went to war with were ever a direct threat. They go on to say that we can leave the world stage without being attacked and we don't have to bend over backwards for people to to business with us.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

The single most important figure of the 21st Century in providing a better economic position for the US in a global context.

Trump has removed parasitic countries suckling at the teet of the US taxpayer for military support, imbalanced trade agreements, and the theft of intellectual property, manufacturing capability etc.

Outside the delusions in his own and his fervent supporters imaginations oh, he is accomplished, nor even made tangible progress, on any of these points.

If Trump is seen as the most important figure of the 21st century 100 years from now, it will be due to his role in the dismantling of the post-WWII Western world order. A world order that saw the defeat of the Eastern Bloc and the near-end of open war between developed nations. He didn't start this mass movement, but he lent it legitimacy using the bully pulpit of the American Presidency.

Maybe we get something better? Maybe the early-21st century world order was unsustainable? My hunch is that imperfect as it is, pulling that rug out will cause far more destruction than leaving it in place.

This is all happening with or without Trump. But Trump became one of the central figures, and that will ultimately be his place in history. His ghost will loom over what follows like Otto von Bismarck loomed over WWI and WWII.

The practical question is in a world that needs the post WW2 world order more than ever, what will come to replace it? A lot of your smarter MAGA people have said that the last 75 years proves that we can probably go back to 1938 or even 1913 because the consequences that the entire post-WW 2 system was made to avoid never came to fruition.

They say no one has exploded a nuke in 75 years and none of the countries we went directly went to war with were ever a direct threat. They go on to say that we can leave the world stage without being attacked and we don't have to bend over backwards for people to to business with us.

I suspect even your smarter MAGA people don't understand (or choose to ignore) the reasons nations go to war in the first place. Or the role that integrated markets and the free movement of people play in alleviating these pressures.

Whatever replaces the current world order will need to find a way for nations to acquire or secure fresh water (for example) in a manner that is more attractive than a military solution. Not that accelerating climate change (for example) will make this one of the most pressing issues for governments several decades from now.

[Progressive Pessimist]

"Yeah, but he's going to be different from typical corrupt, lying, self-interested politicians. That's why I voted for him!"