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« on: August 20, 2018, 03:25:29 PM »

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/20/trump-poll-administration-staff-turnover-789604

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The link to the poll can be found here:

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_US_082018/

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 03:32:09 PM »

I was minutes-away from doing a thread on this.
Good job.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 03:35:25 PM »

Thats 42% of Americans too few.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2018, 03:35:54 PM »

Did Obama?

(Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm doing.)
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 03:55:57 PM »

The scary (but not at all surprising) part is that 42% think he does.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2018, 04:07:17 PM »

The scary (but not at all surprising) part is that 42% think he does.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2018, 04:08:12 PM »

The scary (but not at all surprising) part is that 42% think he does.

In fairness, only 30% do according to the poll. Though that doesn't say much about the 12% who are apparently undecided.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2018, 04:08:32 PM »

Whoa no way
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2018, 06:12:30 PM »

he's fired a lot of his best people. t-rex, come back! we need you!
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2018, 07:30:38 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job, would lose too much money if they did, or have some kind of background issue (e.g. an illegal alien housekeeper, an allegation of domestic violence or #MeToo stuff that didn't go to court and may be unfounded) that they don't want publicized.  Selecting Cabinet officials or others that need Congressional approval, or who will have high media exposure, is a matter of finding folks that can get confirmed and/or don't have "skeletons". 
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2018, 07:31:38 PM »

I'm pleasantly surprised, yet disappointed at the same time. I thought that number would be lower, but it also should be higher. It's so damn obvious.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2018, 08:19:36 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job ...

Of course they wont .... because they don't want to work for a Narcissist, Man-Child Clown.
All the other bs in your post is garbage that only you and other trump cultists force yourself to believe, so you can live in your bubble-world.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2018, 08:38:13 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job ...

Of course they wont .... because they don't want to work for a Narcissist, Man-Child Clown.
All the other bs in your post is garbage that only you and other trump cultists force yourself to believe, so you can live in your bubble-world.

I truly pity you.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2018, 08:43:39 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job, would lose too much money if they did, or have some kind of background issue (e.g. an illegal alien housekeeper, an allegation of domestic violence or #MeToo stuff that didn't go to court and may be unfounded) that they don't want publicized.  Selecting Cabinet officials or others that need Congressional approval, or who will have high media exposure, is a matter of finding folks that can get confirmed and/or don't have "skeletons". 

That, and by now Trump has a rep for firing people and berating those he doesn’t. What talented people leave lucrative private sector jobs for that? What Congressmen would give up safe seats to be the next Tom Price or Scott Pruitt?
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2018, 09:08:50 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job, would lose too much money if they did, or have some kind of background issue (e.g. an illegal alien housekeeper, an allegation of domestic violence or #MeToo stuff that didn't go to court and may be unfounded) that they don't want publicized.  Selecting Cabinet officials or others that need Congressional approval, or who will have high media exposure, is a matter of finding folks that can get confirmed and/or don't have "skeletons". 

That, and by now Trump has a rep for firing people and berating those he doesn’t. What talented people leave lucrative private sector jobs for that? What Congressmen would give up safe seats to be the next Tom Price or Scott Pruitt?

I had a college professor that had an interesting theory that appears to hold up somewhat.  He believed that Presidents had contempt for what they were familiar with, but were in awe of what they found unfamiliar.

LBJ had contempt for politicians, but held the lowliest Brigadier General in the Pentagon in the highest esteem.

Ike held Generals in comtempt, but he was in awe of businessmen.

Wilson held our Congress in contempt, but he was in awe of Britain.  Wilson truly viewed the 1918 off-year elections as a referendum on his policies.  (If he were truly in awe of Britain, he'd have resigned over the electoral defeat.)

He had other examples; this is from 40 years ago that I'm trying to remember, but he had a point.  Trump is contemptuous of businessmen and politicians, but he's in awe of Generals; it's the Generals that Trump treats with the most deference.

If I were a military man, or even a John Bolton-type civilian militarist, I might have a shot at successfully working for Trump.  But if I were, say, Rex Tillerson, I'd have seen the contempt coming.  Tillerson was a guy that I thought was an excellent pick for SoS, but it didn't pan out.  Tillerson's a rival, and Trump has contempt for rivals.

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2018, 09:49:58 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job ...

Of course they wont .... because they don't want to work for a Narcissist, Man-Child Clown.
All the other bs in your post is garbage that only you and other trump cultists force yourself to believe, so you can live in your bubble-world.

I truly pity you.

Trust me.
With the hatred and bigotry that you have posted throughout this forum over the years, and the fact that you want to defend it using Christianity/Jesus, you are the one who needs "pity."
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2018, 09:52:14 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2018, 11:25:10 PM »

The "best" people either won't take the job, would lose too much money if they did, or have some kind of background issue (e.g. an illegal alien housekeeper, an allegation of domestic violence or #MeToo stuff that didn't go to court and may be unfounded) that they don't want publicized.  Selecting Cabinet officials or others that need Congressional approval, or who will have high media exposure, is a matter of finding folks that can get confirmed and/or don't have "skeletons". 

That, and by now Trump has a rep for firing people and berating those he doesn’t. What talented people leave lucrative private sector jobs for that? What Congressmen would give up safe seats to be the next Tom Price or Scott Pruitt?

I had a college professor that had an interesting theory that appears to hold up somewhat.  He believed that Presidents had contempt for what they were familiar with, but were in awe of what they found unfamiliar.

LBJ had contempt for politicians, but held the lowliest Brigadier General in the Pentagon in the highest esteem.

Ike held Generals in comtempt, but he was in awe of businessmen.

Wilson held our Congress in contempt, but he was in awe of Britain.  Wilson truly viewed the 1918 off-year elections as a referendum on his policies.  (If he were truly in awe of Britain, he'd have resigned over the electoral defeat.)

He had other examples; this is from 40 years ago that I'm trying to remember, but he had a point.  Trump is contemptuous of businessmen and politicians, but he's in awe of Generals; it's the Generals that Trump treats with the most deference.

If I were a military man, or even a John Bolton-type civilian militarist, I might have a shot at successfully working for Trump.  But if I were, say, Rex Tillerson, I'd have seen the contempt coming.  Tillerson was a guy that I thought was an excellent pick for SoS, but it didn't pan out.  Tillerson's a rival, and Trump has contempt for rivals.



And yet it is businesspeople in droves that he keeps hiring. Some contempt huh?
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2018, 11:34:47 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2018, 06:41:52 AM »

The "best" people either won't take the job, would lose too much money if they did, or have some kind of background issue (e.g. an illegal alien housekeeper, an allegation of domestic violence or #MeToo stuff that didn't go to court and may be unfounded) that they don't want publicized.  Selecting Cabinet officials or others that need Congressional approval, or who will have high media exposure, is a matter of finding folks that can get confirmed and/or don't have "skeletons". 

That, and by now Trump has a rep for firing people and berating those he doesn’t. What talented people leave lucrative private sector jobs for that? What Congressmen would give up safe seats to be the next Tom Price or Scott Pruitt?

I had a college professor that had an interesting theory that appears to hold up somewhat.  He believed that Presidents had contempt for what they were familiar with, but were in awe of what they found unfamiliar.

LBJ had contempt for politicians, but held the lowliest Brigadier General in the Pentagon in the highest esteem.

Ike held Generals in comtempt, but he was in awe of businessmen.

Wilson held our Congress in contempt, but he was in awe of Britain.  Wilson truly viewed the 1918 off-year elections as a referendum on his policies.  (If he were truly in awe of Britain, he'd have resigned over the electoral defeat.)

He had other examples; this is from 40 years ago that I'm trying to remember, but he had a point.  Trump is contemptuous of businessmen and politicians, but he's in awe of Generals; it's the Generals that Trump treats with the most deference.

If I were a military man, or even a John Bolton-type civilian militarist, I might have a shot at successfully working for Trump.  But if I were, say, Rex Tillerson, I'd have seen the contempt coming.  Tillerson was a guy that I thought was an excellent pick for SoS, but it didn't pan out.  Tillerson's a rival, and Trump has contempt for rivals.



And yet it is businesspeople in droves that he keeps hiring. Some contempt huh?

It's contempt in the sense that these are the people he is unafraid to disparage.  Look at the difference in which Trump treats Mattis and McMaster as opposed to his "business" appointees.

And Trump has even more contempt for his "political" appointees, people who were career politicians.  To him, they're just whores, people who came to him when he was a private citizen wanting money.  He's not afraid to hire them because he can tell them what he wants done and treat them like crap if they don't deliver.

Trump hires people he has contempt for because it's easier for him to fire them when they displease him.

To a point, I agree with this.  A President's cabinet and appointees ought to be people whose actions reflect the wishes of the President.  He/She is the guy/gal the people elected, and it's the elected official who ought to be directing policy.  And a lot of the chaos that has been part of other past Administrations has stemmed from many Presidents' unwillingness to fire a top appointee, even when that person is causing dissention in the Administration or undermining an important policy initiative.

It is the Generals, however, that Trump most respects, and never disparages.  Look at the deference he has for them, relative to everyone else.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2018, 07:16:11 AM »

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