Mike Pence: ‘Almost no idea more un-American’: Pence breaks with Trump on Jan. 6 in new statement

[President Johnson]

Pence is done for until Trumpism is gone from the republican party. He'll never be pure psycho enough for the Q followers and will be tied to them forever by the moderate wing of the party. How the hell would Pence make it through a primary at any point in the near future?

As I said, even if Trumpism were to fade away, Pence will be a yesterday's man and too tied to Trump. His political career is over.

[GP270watch]

 Mike Pence is one of the most unsympathetic figures in the history of American politics. This statement is correct in its words but awful in its timing and action.

[Calthrina950]

Atlas red avatars have shown themselves to be completely incapable of distinguishing between different people on the right, and you can see it in this thread.

There is a saying among German leftists that goes "Es bringt nichts, Scheiße nach unterschiedlichen Brauntönen zu sortieren", which translates to "It's unnecessary to sort poop by different shades of brown", though it probably does not really fit in this case. I just like the saying.

Conservatives could say the same about the left though.

I'm just saying that there seems to be a lot of online leftists who can't distinguish between the Ben Shapiro fan who says "Dems are the real racists," and people who say that "Jews will not replace us."

I've been going through Tar Heel Gentleman's posts, and like I noted elsewhere earlier, many on the left here seem to have a visceral reaction to him, a very visceral reaction. And I say this as someone who has become very critical of other posters like Fuzzy Bear recently.

I mean saying that black people face inequality in this country is due to their “bad culture” is going to make you an unpopular figure with most posters

No, I understand why many people are upset with him, although I don't think he's as personally combative-yet-as Fuzzy Bear can be.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Pence is a patriot. It’s an absolute shame that people were misled into genuinely believing that he could overturn an election.

The question becomes one of asking why and how the American right has reached a state where critical thinking, skepticism, respect for the rule of law and the constitution, separation of powers and basic decency and respect can be tossed into the trash in favor of the snake oil of con men. These can be represented in the form of media personalities (Who get richer by stirring the Sh@%T), special interests (who get richer by keeping people focused elsewhere) and pressure groups (whose business model depends on their cause celeb being under constant threat real or imagined, thus forming another conflict of interest).

[Badger]

Atlas red avatars have shown themselves to be completely incapable of distinguishing between different people on the right, and you can see it in this thread.

There is a saying among German leftists that goes "Es bringt nichts, Scheiße nach unterschiedlichen Brauntönen zu sortieren", which translates to "It's unnecessary to sort poop by different shades of brown", though it probably does not really fit in this case. I just like the saying.

Conservatives could say the same about the left though.

I'm just saying that there seems to be a lot of online leftists who can't distinguish between the Ben Shapiro fan who says "Dems are the real racists," and people who say that "Jews will not replace us."

So we're supposed to make a meaningful difference between conservative views on race when apparently they come into either full-scale denialism of race problems end laughably blaming Democrats which is why they obtained ninety-plus percent of the African American vote of course, or outright literal neo-nazis.

You really are making our argument for us here.