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« on: July 25, 2018, 11:42:18 PM »
« edited: July 25, 2018, 11:57:48 PM by AMB1996 »

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

Obviously, the first and greatest precinct map is that published by this forum's very own Ryne Rohla at DDHQ, but this one has a unique feature – the NYTimes crew have calculated driving times to the nearest precinct that voted for the other candidate.

A fun game is to try and find the most remote Clinton precinct; that is, the Clinton precinct that is the longest drive from a Trump precinct (and vice versa, though that's less fun and harder to verify given the number).

My current high score is 8 hours and 21 minutes from Covill, MN to any Trump area. Other regions I could find that had were greater than an hour's drive from an accessible Trump precinct were eastern Oahu, the Rio Grande Valley, the Navajo Nation, two small towns in California, and northern Vermont.

Since the algorithm doesn't include traffic, I wasn't able to find many 30m+ drives to Trump precincts from major American cities. The most remote "urban" Clinton precincts I could find were in Santa Barbara.

I do have some suspicions that the algorithm isn't perfect, though.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2018, 01:33:47 AM »

Thank you!
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2018, 11:18:14 AM »

My current high score is 8 hours and 21 minutes from Covill, MN to any Trump area. Other regions I could find that had were greater than an hour's drive from an accessible Trump precinct were eastern Oahu, the Rio Grande Valley, the Navajo Nation, two small towns in California, and northern Vermont.

Since the algorithm doesn't include traffic, I wasn't able to find many 30m+ drives to Trump precincts from major American cities. The most remote "urban" Clinton precincts I could find were in Santa Barbara.

I do have some suspicions that the algorithm isn't perfect, though.

I'd say, yes. :-)

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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2018, 11:19:44 AM »

I'd take a look at some precincts in NE Arizona.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2018, 02:18:29 PM »

Check out Liberal, KS. #HonestNames
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2018, 09:20:12 PM »

Indeed, very interesting thread
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2018, 09:06:54 AM »

There are several precincts where Jill Stein came in second in Berkley, CA. Gary Johnson also managed to notch a second place finish in Albuquerque's Barelas neighborhood. I'm sure you can find other Johnson precints around NM and UT. McMullin won several precints in Provo, UT - including one where he won 62% of the vote just east of BYU.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 09:58:53 AM »

In Alaska's election district 40, there's a precinct with the following results:

Clinton 36%
Darrell Castle 26%
Trump 12%
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 12:49:04 PM »

There already is a national precinct map, and that one also includes 2008 and 2012. I wonder whether there also is a 2004 precinct map.

https://decisiondeskhq.com/data-dives/creating-a-national-precinct-map/

Anyway, I've certainly been in a Trump precinct. When I was in NYC last year I visited someone who lived in one of the Trump precincts in Harrison, Westchester County. Maybe I randomly drove/walked through another Trump precinct in NYC.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2018, 04:21:27 PM »

In Alaska's election district 40, there's a precinct with the following results:

Clinton 36%
Darrell Castle 26%
Trump 12%

Did 11 voters misread the butterfly ballot?
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2018, 05:24:14 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

Obviously, the first and greatest precinct map is that published by this forum's very own Ryne Rohla at DDHQ, but this one has a unique feature – the NYTimes crew have calculated driving times to the nearest precinct that voted for the other candidate.

A fun game is to try and find the most remote Clinton precinct; that is, the Clinton precinct that is the longest drive from a Trump precinct (and vice versa, though that's less fun and harder to verify given the number).

My current high score is 8 hours and 21 minutes from Covill, MN to any Trump area. Other regions I could find that had were greater than an hour's drive from an accessible Trump precinct were eastern Oahu, the Rio Grande Valley, the Navajo Nation, two small towns in California, and northern Vermont.

Since the algorithm doesn't include traffic, I wasn't able to find many 30m+ drives to Trump precincts from major American cities. The most remote "urban" Clinton precincts I could find were in Santa Barbara.

I do have some suspicions that the algorithm isn't perfect, though.

There are several precincts in Boston, DC, Chicago, and the SF Bay that are 30 minute drives from Trump precincts.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2018, 06:05:08 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

Obviously, the first and greatest precinct map is that published by this forum's very own Ryne Rohla at DDHQ, but this one has a unique feature – the NYTimes crew have calculated driving times to the nearest precinct that voted for the other candidate.

A fun game is to try and find the most remote Clinton precinct; that is, the Clinton precinct that is the longest drive from a Trump precinct (and vice versa, though that's less fun and harder to verify given the number).

My current high score is 8 hours and 21 minutes from Covill, MN to any Trump area. Other regions I could find that had were greater than an hour's drive from an accessible Trump precinct were eastern Oahu, the Rio Grande Valley, the Navajo Nation, two small towns in California, and northern Vermont.

Since the algorithm doesn't include traffic, I wasn't able to find many 30m+ drives to Trump precincts from major American cities. The most remote "urban" Clinton precincts I could find were in Santa Barbara.

I do have some suspicions that the algorithm isn't perfect, though.

There are several precincts in Boston, DC, Chicago, and the SF Bay that are 30 minute drives from Trump precincts.

This is the furthest I can find, a two hour drive:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html#8.70/36.220/-109.152/123420
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2018, 06:11:38 PM »

Another case of bad algorithm, as I don't think this one is a 4 hour drive, but here's a pretty deep Trump precinct:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html#8.98/46.232/-104.250/126420
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2018, 08:03:30 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

Obviously, the first and greatest precinct map is that published by this forum's very own Ryne Rohla at DDHQ, but this one has a unique feature – the NYTimes crew have calculated driving times to the nearest precinct that voted for the other candidate.

A fun game is to try and find the most remote Clinton precinct; that is, the Clinton precinct that is the longest drive from a Trump precinct (and vice versa, though that's less fun and harder to verify given the number).

My current high score is 8 hours and 21 minutes from Covill, MN to any Trump area. Other regions I could find that had were greater than an hour's drive from an accessible Trump precinct were eastern Oahu, the Rio Grande Valley, the Navajo Nation, two small towns in California, and northern Vermont.

Since the algorithm doesn't include traffic, I wasn't able to find many 30m+ drives to Trump precincts from major American cities. The most remote "urban" Clinton precincts I could find were in Santa Barbara.

I do have some suspicions that the algorithm isn't perfect, though.

There are several precincts in Boston, DC, Chicago, and the SF Bay that are 30 minute drives from Trump precincts.

I rounded these down; they are roughly in the 30 minute range.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2018, 02:56:58 PM »

My area in central Jersey is pretty red.

Middlesex County, N.J.

An Obama-Trump phenomenon.

It is a good interactive map.

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2018, 07:24:02 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2018, 05:50:27 PM »



Two data points do not a trend make. Even if the difference between points were more significant than these two.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2018, 05:22:15 PM »

All Clinton voters:

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2018, 03:48:27 PM »



Two data points do not a trend make. Even if the difference between points were more significant than these two.

Your signature pic seems quite strange ... ignoring that there is quite a bit of red on there, there are also a whole lot of Republican voters in those blue circles that don't "show up on the map" because they aren't a plurality in their location, too.  LOL, regardless of one's opinion of the EC, it's not like Hillary blew Trump out in the popular vote; it was, at the very least, pretty close. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2018, 07:54:04 AM »



Two data points do not a trend make. Even if the difference between points were more significant than these two.

Your signature pic seems quite strange ... ignoring that there is quite a bit of red on there, there are also a whole lot of Republican voters in those blue circles that don't "show up on the map" because they aren't a plurality in their location, too.  LOL, regardless of one's opinion of the EC, it's not like Hillary blew Trump out in the popular vote; it was, at the very least, pretty close. 

The point was not to demonstrate that Hillary "blew out Trump." The point of that signature is a rebuff to the ridiculous memes going around on the Edgesphere, such as the one showing a sea of red with a few dots of blue, crying about how unfair it would be if the most densely populated counties had their way in a national popular vote. Or simply showing the 2016 result by county, and how the EC protected all those poor, disregarded people occupying 95% of the country from the tyranny of places with more people.

What utter, unmitigated BS.

So, by showing vote distribution as the same number of people per pixel, we get a much more accurate and nuanced picture of how the vote was distributed. Pretty much equal parts red and blue, with a lot of empty space in the interior west. Your voice does not count for more just because there are fewer of you per square mile. Well, it does, thanks to the Senate, if you're lucky enough to live in a small state not dominated by people who don't share your views. But there's really no reasonable justification for pressing the thumb down on the scale more than it already is.

I would also ask the (mostly rhetorical) question: What is it about people in densely populated areas that people in sparsely populated areas find so objectionable?
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2018, 09:57:03 PM »

My precinct went 57% Clinton, 38% Trump, the one immediately north of me went 91% Clinton, 4% Trump and the one immediately south of me went 72% Trump, 22% Clinton
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2018, 11:54:44 PM »

Alaska doesn't have drive times Sad The farthest has got to be one of the precincts on the peninsula where Nome is, although it is probably not driveable at all.
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