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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2018, 11:58:01 PM »

We didn't get Republican celebrities to pose for magazines with his decapitated head.
The people who had effigies of President Obama hanging from a tree and depicting him as an ape were OK because they weren't celebrities? K.
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2018, 12:51:50 AM »

If anyone is surprised by this they must've been living under a rock the past few years.
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2018, 01:04:35 AM »

Glorious hot takes for the hot take gods.
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2018, 01:28:55 AM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.


First of all, this is unlikely to trouble those media filled with Trump cultists -- such as FoX News Channel, let alone Breitbart.

Second, this simply loads more cause for contempt for the President who have already given up on him (as polls measure it, "disapproval", let alone "strong disapproval"). People who dislike his policies on taxes, immigration, privatization, foreign policy, and the environment simply have more cause to despise this President.

Third, one can now expect a floor of about 40% for approval for any President whose Administration is not in a late stage of collapse as was so with Nixon just before he resigned or Dubya as the economy melted down -- and the ceiling for disapproval is around 60% -- which suggests the percentages of people intensely partisan for Republicans and Democrats, respectively.  It's not until one gets to the stage of hounds closing in on a crippled deer that approval drops well below 40% or disapproval gets well above 60%. 

Nobody has ever seen such in American history. Maybe in some other country, but not this one. Maybe we still believe in elections and the rule of law because we are Americans.

We have a Constitutional crisis.   
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2018, 01:36:16 AM »

Trump has already hit his floor. Attitudes probably won't change until after the midterms. If he survived Charlottesville and the family separation crisis he will come out of this with little damage.
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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2018, 03:05:55 AM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.


Well, according to this poll, our apocalyptic fearmongering seems to have won over 55% of them
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2018, 03:11:33 AM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.


Well, according to this poll, our apocalyptic fearmongering seems to have won over 55% of them

Nah, almost all of that 55% didn't like him to begin with.
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2018, 03:44:20 PM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.


Well, according to this poll, our apocalyptic fearmongering seems to have won over 55% of them

Nah, almost all of that 55% didn't like him to begin with.

My point was that, for all the right's rejoicing that nothing is sticking to the President, a substantial majority of the actual general population doesn't like him
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2018, 04:29:56 PM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.


Well, according to this poll, our apocalyptic fearmongering seems to have won over 55% of them

Nah, almost all of that 55% didn't like him to begin with.

Polarization between supporters and foes of the president seems to have baked in now. There’s a solid 35% of approvers and 45% of disapprovers with the rest in the middle. Democrats need to find a way to reach out to that middle if they want to win the midterms.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2018, 05:42:02 PM »

It's all about turnout.  If we can light a fire underneath every Democrat in this country on November 6, I have news for the Republicans: it's going to be one of the most liberal electorates in history and there will be massive straight party ticket voting.  Every Republican dogcatcher in this country is going to be tied to Treasonous Toxic Trump.

It's payback time.

Democrats, it's got to be a beeline to the polls.  We need 2008 presidential turnout on November 6.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2018, 06:25:30 PM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.
You and the Republicans are an absolute mess.

Equating Trump's misguided interactions with Russia to Pearl Harbor & Kristallnacht is ridiculous, and it really showcases the rabid derangement and lack of sanity on the part of some of the TDS folks.

They don't give a d*mn about anything unless it gets them closer to destroying Trump. They're hardly capable of doing anything besides hysterically shrieking about the fact that Trump is president.

You're actually describing the Republican party from 2008 and onward about Obama, and he did not backstab this country in the way Trump has.

Oh come on, dude. We weren't that bad. We didn't get Republican celebrities to pose for magazines with his decapitated head. We didn't have dozens of members of Congress boycott his inaugurations. Don't even try to compare.

Republicans treated Obama much worse than Democrats have treated Trump, and Obama did MUCH less to deserve it.

Anyone who denies this is a delusional buffoon
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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2018, 06:47:53 PM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.
You and the Republicans are an absolute mess.

Equating Trump's misguided interactions with Russia to Pearl Harbor & Kristallnacht is ridiculous, and it really showcases the rabid derangement and lack of sanity on the part of some of the TDS folks.

They don't give a d*mn about anything unless it gets them closer to destroying Trump. They're hardly capable of doing anything besides hysterically shrieking about the fact that Trump is president.

You're actually describing the Republican party from 2008 and onward about Obama, and he did not backstab this country in the way Trump has.

Oh come on, dude. We weren't that bad. We didn't get Republican celebrities to pose for magazines with his decapitated head. We didn't have dozens of members of Congress boycott his inaugurations. Don't even try to compare.

They curb stomped people and threatened politicians in public with guns!
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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2018, 06:52:00 PM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.
You and the Republicans are an absolute mess.

Equating Trump's misguided interactions with Russia to Pearl Harbor & Kristallnacht is ridiculous, and it really showcases the rabid derangement and lack of sanity on the part of some of the TDS folks.

They don't give a d*mn about anything unless it gets them closer to destroying Trump. They're hardly capable of doing anything besides hysterically shrieking about the fact that Trump is president.

You're actually describing the Republican party from 2008 and onward about Obama, and he did not backstab this country in the way Trump has.

Oh come on, dude. We weren't that bad. We didn't get Republican celebrities to pose for magazines with his decapitated head. We didn't have dozens of members of Congress boycott his inaugurations. Don't even try to compare.

Republicans treated Obama much worse than Democrats have treated Trump, and Obama did MUCH less to deserve it.

Anyone who denies this is a delusional buffoon

Pretty much. And for all the TDS out there, there sure is a lot of Hillary Derangement Syndrome...
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2018, 07:51:39 PM »

The delusional hysteria and apocalyptic fear mongering over this on the part of the media & left will not win over many voters. No surprise here.


Well, yes, that's part of it.  The media have become the worst bunch of Chicken Littles and Wolf Criers.

The other side of that is that Trump's Shock Jock style has brought folks of all persuasions to where they expect the unexpected.  I don't think much of anything Trump does is shocking these days.
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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2018, 07:55:09 PM »

We didn't get Republican celebrities to pose for magazines with his decapitated head.
The people who had effigies of President Obama hanging from a tree and depicting him as an ape were OK because they weren't celebrities? K.

No, they weren't OK.
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