AL-02: Bobby Bright in a rematch against Roby
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Question: Who wins Republican primary?
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Martha Roby
 
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Bobby Bright
 
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Barry Moore
 
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Rich Hobson
 
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Tommy Amason
 
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2018, 08:36:27 AM »

I have Bright winning by 56-43 personally. I think most of the voters who didn't vote either Roby or Bright in the first round are voting Bright because those comments about not voting Trump still are clearly hurting her with Republican voters here.
It really is a shame that not being a loyal minion of Trump is so fatal to Alabama republicans.
Roby doesn't deserve what she's getting.

I agree. But I still think Bright achieves what Gene Taylor was unable to.
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2018, 08:50:34 AM »

Bright (and Taylor, especially in first 10-15 years in House) were Southern conservative Democrats with some mild populist notes, but - strong socially conservative strain. Such people (and, generally, many whites from South or rural areas) are not that far different  (in their views) from Trump (who, after all, was registered as a Democrat for many years too) ideologically. So, i see nothing especially strange in their alleged "transformation"....
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2018, 08:59:00 AM »

Bright should crack 60%.  He’s incredibly popular in this area.

1.He wasn't popular enough to beat Roby in 2010.

2.Is he 'incredibly popular' in all of the district or just in the city of Montgomery?
He actually did quite well for a Democrat in Alabama in 2010, no?
"He wasn't popular enough to win in an R wave year" is one of the weakest arguments I've seen and it's shocking you think that it helps your case.
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2018, 09:09:09 AM »

As I recall Bright sucked as a Democrat, and those that turn Republican tend to be some of the most awful.

Sucks that disavowing a sexual predator is worthy of being thrown out in AL.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2018, 09:15:14 AM »

As I recall Bright sucked as a Democrat, and those that turn Republican tend to be some of the most awful.

Sucks that disavowing a sexual predator is worthy of being thrown out in AL.
I mean, this is the congressional district that voted by 10 points to send one to the Senate.
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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2018, 09:26:09 AM »
« Edited: June 11, 2018, 09:39:31 AM by smoltchanov »

As I recall Bright sucked as a Democrat, and those that turn Republican tend to be some of the most awful.

Sucks that disavowing a sexual predator is worthy of being thrown out in AL.

Again - Bright was a very conservative Democrat. In fact - he was heavily recruited by BOTH poliyical parties in his 2008 race, but THEN chose Democratic party, may be - because there was still a considerable number of rather conservative Democrats in party (and, especially, in the South) at that time. After all - it was BEFORE 2010 and 2014 realignments.... So, it was unreasonable to expect him to vote like not only Nancy Pelosi, but even as John Manchin...

P.S. It's still raher common situation in the South, where a lot of Republican officeholders, and even present day candidates (look at Alabama SD-2, which elected very conservative Democrat Tom Butler for years, but swept him out in 2010. He understood, that Democrat (even so conservative as him) can no longer win such district simply because of letter after name, and this year runs again for it, but this time  as a Republican) are former Democrats. I tend to believe them, when they say, that party (which became much more liberal on a lot of social (including racial) issues since 1948) gradually left them. They, essentially, were members of "conservative Democratic party", which no longer exist (even as a wing in party).
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2018, 09:28:22 AM »

I have Bright winning by 56-43 personally. I think most of the voters who didn't vote either Roby or Bright in the first round are voting Bright because those comments about not voting Trump still are clearly hurting her with Republican voters here.
It really is a shame that not being a loyal minion of Trump is so fatal to Alabama republicans.
Roby doesn't deserve what she's getting.
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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2018, 09:47:29 AM »

The funny thing is, Roby was your generic conservative Republican before Trump. She wasn’t a moderate or anything even close to that. Goodbye Roby, at least you had enough guts at one point to stand up to Trump. More than what an overwhelming majority of Republicans can say about themselves.
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2018, 09:54:51 AM »

I have Bright winning by 56-43 personally. I think most of the voters who didn't vote either Roby or Bright in the first round are voting Bright because those comments about not voting Trump still are clearly hurting her with Republican voters here.
It really is a shame that not being a loyal minion of Trump is so fatal to Alabama republicans.
Roby doesn't deserve what she's getting.
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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2018, 09:56:27 AM »

As I recall Bright sucked as a Democrat, and those that turn Republican tend to be some of the most awful.

Sucks that disavowing a sexual predator is worthy of being thrown out in AL.

Again - Bright was a very conservative Democrat. In fact - he was heavily recruited by BOTH poliyical parties in his 2008 race, but THEN chose Democratic party, may be - because there was still a considerable number of rather conservative Democrats in party (and, especially, in the South) at that time. After all - it was BEFORE 2010 and 2014 realignments.... So, it was unreasonable to expect him to vote like not only Nancy Pelosi, but even as John Manchin...

Ah interesting. So he was even more useless than a Yellow Dog Democrat. Looks like 2010 wasn’t so bad after all.
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2018, 10:13:18 AM »
« Edited: June 11, 2018, 01:06:42 PM by smoltchanov »

As I recall Bright sucked as a Democrat, and those that turn Republican tend to be some of the most awful.

Sucks that disavowing a sexual predator is worthy of being thrown out in AL.

Again - Bright was a very conservative Democrat. In fact - he was heavily recruited by BOTH poliyical parties in his 2008 race, but THEN chose Democratic party, may be - because there was still a considerable number of rather conservative Democrats in party (and, especially, in the South) at that time. After all - it was BEFORE 2010 and 2014 realignments.... So, it was unreasonable to expect him to vote like not only Nancy Pelosi, but even as John Manchin...

Ah interesting. So he was even more useless than a Yellow Dog Democrat. Looks like 2010 wasn’t so bad after all.

I wouldn't say so. Democrats could count on Bright voting with them in 25-35% of cases. For Roby this is somewhere in 0-5% range. Feel the difference. You can't hope to elect anyone even remotely liberal  (or even centrist) in this very conservative district.
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2018, 12:21:24 PM »

The difference between Bright and Taylor/Griffith is he was never really a Democrat to begin with. He was elected mayor of Montgomery on a nonpartisan ballot and never claimed a partisan allegiance, and only ran as a Democrat because they courted him and offered him better deals. Taylor had been a Democratic Congressman for well over a decade and Griffith had a history in the state legislature and Alabama Democratic Party. So maybe his chances will be better...but I still wouldn't bet on him.
He voted for Pelosi. He's DOA.
Wrong. Bright voted against Pelosi or did not vote for Speaker.
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2018, 12:47:12 PM »

I have Bright winning by 56-43 personally. I think most of the voters who didn't vote either Roby or Bright in the first round are voting Bright because those comments about not voting Trump still are clearly hurting her with Republican voters here.
It really is a shame that not being a loyal minion of Trump is so fatal to Alabama republicans.
Roby doesn't deserve what she's getting.

Sorry guys, the Republican Party is now an intellectually bankrupt Trump cult. Of course, that's been obvious for a while now. Just look at previously conservative stalwarts like Kasich, Flake, etc. being exiled into the abyss for daring to speak out against Dear Leader, lol.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2018, 06:49:25 PM »

I have Bright winning by 56-43 personally. I think most of the voters who didn't vote either Roby or Bright in the first round are voting Bright because those comments about not voting Drumpf still are clearly hurting her with Republican voters here.
It really is a shame that not being a loyal minion of Drumpf is so fatal to Alabama republicans.
Roby doesn't deserve what she's getting.

Sorry guys, the Republican Party is now an intellectually bankrupt Drumpf cult. Of course, that's been obvious for a while now. Just look at previously conservative stalwarts like Kasich, Flake, etc. being exiled into the abyss for daring to speak out against Dear Leader, lol.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2018, 06:57:58 PM »

The difference between Bright and Taylor/Griffith is he was never really a Democrat to begin with. He was elected mayor of Montgomery on a nonpartisan ballot and never claimed a partisan allegiance, and only ran as a Democrat because they courted him and offered him better deals. Taylor had been a Democratic Congressman for well over a decade and Griffith had a history in the state legislature and Alabama Democratic Party. So maybe his chances will be better...but I still wouldn't bet on him.
He voted for Pelosi. He's DOA.
Wrong. Bright voted against Pelosi or did not vote for Speaker.

This receipt says otherwise http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll002.xml
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2018, 07:08:24 PM »

The difference between Bright and Taylor/Griffith is he was never really a Democrat to begin with. He was elected mayor of Montgomery on a nonpartisan ballot and never claimed a partisan allegiance, and only ran as a Democrat because they courted him and offered him better deals. Taylor had been a Democratic Congressman for well over a decade and Griffith had a history in the state legislature and Alabama Democratic Party. So maybe his chances will be better...but I still wouldn't bet on him.
He voted for Pelosi. He's DOA.
Wrong. Bright voted against Pelosi or did not vote for Speaker.

This receipt says otherwise http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll002.xml
This should help Roby.
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