Does Espy outperform Musgrove?

[Bidenworth2020]

I am gonna say yes.

[IceSpear]

I wouldn't be overly surprised if he did, but I'm guessing no.

[Del Tachi]

I expect the results will be broadly similar, something along 55-45.

Which will be quite surprising considering that Espy is a unabashedly liberal Black man whereas Musgrove was a rural, White conservadem governor.

[lfromnj]

I expect the results will be broadly similar, something along 55-45.

Which will be quite surprising considering that Espy is a unabashedly liberal Black man whereas Musgrove was a rural, White conservadem governor.

Espys a super liberal?
Didn't he endorse Harbour and was generally regarded as a moderate?

[OneJ]

I wouldn't be overly surprised if he did, but I'm guessing no.

[Del Tachi]

I expect the results will be broadly similar, something along 55-45.

Which will be quite surprising considering that Espy is a unabashedly liberal Black man whereas Musgrove was a rural, White conservadem governor.

Espys a super liberal?
Didn't he endorse Harbour and was generally regarded as a moderate?

Espy has campaigned as pro-Obamacare, anti-Kavanaugh, and quasi pro-gun control.  Its hard to imagine someone like Brandon Presley or Jim Hood taking those same positions in a statewide election.

[lfromnj]

I expect the results will be broadly similar, something along 55-45.

Which will be quite surprising considering that Espy is a unabashedly liberal Black man whereas Musgrove was a rural, White conservadem governor.

Espys a super liberal?
Didn't he endorse Harbour and was generally regarded as a moderate?

Espy has campaigned as pro-Obamacare, anti-Kavanaugh, and quasi pro-gun control.  Its hard to imagine someone like Brandon Presley or Jim Hood taking those same positions in a statewide election.

I mean besides Kavanaugh Manchin was pretty similar.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Espy has campaigned as pro-Obamacare, anti-Kavanaugh, and quasi pro-gun control.  Its hard to imagine someone like Brandon Presley or Jim Hood taking those same positions in a statewide election.

None of these positions makes him "unabashedly liberal".

[NewYorkExpress]

Since he's a Black man, no.

I think most Mississippi Whites would love to join Hyde-Smith at a lynching, and as such, Hyde-Smith wins somewhere between 60-40 and 70-30.

[History505]

Nope.

[Gustaf]

Espy has campaigned as pro-Obamacare, anti-Kavanaugh, and quasi pro-gun control.  Its hard to imagine someone like Brandon Presley or Jim Hood taking those same positions in a statewide election.

None of these positions makes him "unabashedly liberal".

I think unabashedly liberal might be Mississippi-speak for black.

[ON Progressive]

Espy has campaigned as pro-Obamacare, anti-Kavanaugh, and quasi pro-gun control.  Its hard to imagine someone like Brandon Presley or Jim Hood taking those same positions in a statewide election.

None of these positions makes him "unabashedly liberal".

It's Mississippi, so that sounds "unabashedly liberal" by those standards.

[Badger]

Assuming you were talking about the 2003 election, in terms of raw vote percentage of just short of 46% of the vote, I will wimp out and say maybe. I predict that is a percentage point at most short of ESPYs ceiling, and about 2 to three points above his floor.

If we're talking about margin of defeat, considering Musgrove lost by just under 7 percentage points after 3rd party candidates vote totals were included, I say ESPy Falls a bit short.

[7,052,770]

No he loses something like 57-43. A great candidate would have won it, and a good candidate might have, but Espy is neither. The first round on 11/6 was 58-42 in favor of Republicans, and I see no reason for the 11/27 vote to be particularly different.

Also 10 years ago Espy was offering to switch parties if Barbour would appoint him to the Lott seat (that eventually went to Wicker), so he's pretty far from liberal.

[Xing]

Probably not, though it’s certainly more plausible than him winning.

[smoltchanov]

Espy has campaigned as pro-Obamacare, anti-Kavanaugh, and quasi pro-gun control.  Its hard to imagine someone like Brandon Presley or Jim Hood taking those same positions in a statewide election.

None of these positions makes him "unabashedly liberal".

It's Mississippi, so that sounds "unabashedly liberal" by those standards.

+1

[IceSpear]

He did. He should be proud.

[lfromnj]

He did. He should be proud.

yeah musgrove even had Obama on the ballot to shoot black turnout through the roof while he could still appeal to those yellow dogs who didn't the democrats as the anti white  party yet.

[Adam Griffin]

As of right now, he's barely behind Wayne Dowdy in 1988 who had 46.09% (Espy has 46.08%), but there are 16 precincts remaining that lean 70/30 GOP. Besides Dowdy, Espy will have the best performance of any Democrat (%-wise) since Stennis; margin-wise, the third (Clinton came closer in 1996).