Kasich: 'I didn't leave the Rep Party. The Rep Party left me'

[TJ in Oregon]

Kasich's problem isn't really his policies; they are for the most part well within the Republican mainstream. His problem is that he genuinely seems to think that and act like he is better than the people he ostensibly wants to get to vote for him. And his campaign staffers from his presidential run were like 1000x worse about that than Kasich himself is. The issue here isn't even much policy disagreement, it's that he looked at what he sees as the base of the two parties and decided he didn't like the Republican voters. Not disagreed with them, didn't like them, respect them, etc.

Shockingly, that doesn't go over well in partisan primaries!

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Kasich can f*** over the disadvantaged through his actual policies as much as he wants, but so long as his statements fit modern etiquette, then he’s perfectly acceptable and a praiseworthy, “voice of reason” Republican.

This is almost the exact opposite of the truth.  Kasich is working to help the disadvantaged, and he's not especially polite (in fact he's often been criticized for his lack in this area).

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The main way in which Kasich is more moderate than Trump is that he has a more moderate personality.

[Kingpoleon]

When you win only 13.8% of the vote and one state out of fifty, you might take this as a hint that you aren’t presidential material and just go away...

Bob Dole only got ~17-18% of the vote in 1988, IIRC. Bush only got ~21% in 1980.

Kasich can f*** over the disadvantaged through his actual policies as much as he wants, but so long as his statements fit modern etiquette, then he’s perfectly acceptable and a praiseworthy, “voice of reason” Republican.

This is almost the exact opposite of the truth.  Kasich is working to help the disadvantaged, and he's not especially polite (in fact he's often been criticized for his lack in this area).

Yeah... He lost a lot of donors with his “protecting our most vulnerable - those in the shadows of society” talk, which he knew was likely to happen. Several former Kasich donors actually ended up giving large amounts to Cruz and Rubio.

[Famous Mortimer]

I really wish Kasich would go ahead and run for president as an independent, on a platform of more immigration and cuts to entitlements. It would be great to see him get 0.1% of the vote. Unfortunately, while he's pretty dumb, he's smart enough to know that that is the likely outcome, so he won't actually put his money where his mouth is.

[BBD]

Kasich is an opportunistic clown just like O'Malley. Both were complicit in gerrymandering their states to hell, and now they've postured themselves as righteous defenders of democracy. The former is particularly egregious, for the aforementioned and many other reasons listed in the thread. Two failed Presidential candidates whose egos are more inflated than ever. Sad!

[publicunofficial]

Kasich's problem isn't really his policies; they are for the most part well within the Republican mainstream. His problem is that he genuinely seems to think that and act like he is better than the people he ostensibly wants to get to vote for him. And his campaign staffers from his presidential run were like 1000x worse about that than Kasich himself is. The issue here isn't even much policy disagreement, it's that he looked at what he sees as the base of the two parties and decided he didn't like the Republican voters. Not disagreed with them, didn't like them, respect them, etc.

Shockingly, that doesn't go over well in partisan primaries!

Politicians who frame themselves as centrists almost universally suffer from this.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Kasich's problem isn't really his policies; they are for the most part well within the Republican mainstream. His problem is that he genuinely seems to think that and act like he is better than the people he ostensibly wants to get to vote for him. And his campaign staffers from his presidential run were like 1000x worse about that than Kasich himself is. The issue here isn't even much policy disagreement, it's that he looked at what he sees as the base of the two parties and decided he didn't like the Republican voters. Not disagreed with them, didn't like them, respect them, etc.

Shockingly, that doesn't go over well in partisan primaries!

A very thoughtful response.

Yes, that's true.  I didn't see it, but, yes, that was Kasich's problem in hindsight.  It's why Kasich LOOKED like the strongest candidate, but turned out not to be, and by a longshot.

[Badger]

Kasich can f*** over the disadvantaged through his actual policies as much as he wants, but so long as his statements fit modern etiquette, then he’s perfectly acceptable and a praiseworthy, “voice of reason” Republican.

You mean like Paul Ryan?

“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor - that if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”
“Neither party cares about poor people, and they should.”


Kasich never advocated a single welfare cut during his presidential campaign.

He sure had no problem with it when he was one of Gingrich's minions in Congress in the 1990s.

Doesn't his support of Medicaid expansion, among several other policy shifts, indicate he has moderated his views since he was, undeniably, a right-wing congressman from The Young Turk faction of the party 20 + years ago?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Kasich can f*** over the disadvantaged through his actual policies as much as he wants, but so long as his statements fit modern etiquette, then he’s perfectly acceptable and a praiseworthy, “voice of reason” Republican.

You mean like Paul Ryan?

“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor - that if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”
“Neither party cares about poor people, and they should.”


Kasich never advocated a single welfare cut during his presidential campaign.

He sure had no problem with it when he was one of Gingrich's minions in Congress in the 1990s.

Doesn't his support of Medicaid expansion, among several other policy shifts, indicate he has moderated his views since he was, undeniably, a right-wing congressman from The Young Turk faction of the party 20 + years ago?

I would say it’s more the gop who moved to the right than Kasich moving to the left .


Remember Obamacare was originally the republican alternative to Hillarycare and Then Romenycare so I actually it was Kasich who stayed consistent not the gop .


 

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Kasich can f*** over the disadvantaged through his actual policies as much as he wants, but so long as his statements fit modern etiquette, then he’s perfectly acceptable and a praiseworthy, “voice of reason” Republican.

You mean like Paul Ryan?

“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor - that if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”
“Neither party cares about poor people, and they should.”


Kasich never advocated a single welfare cut during his presidential campaign.

He sure had no problem with it when he was one of Gingrich's minions in Congress in the 1990s.

Doesn't his support of Medicaid expansion, among several other policy shifts, indicate he has moderated his views since he was, undeniably, a right-wing congressman from The Young Turk faction of the party 20 + years ago?

I would say it’s more the gop who moved to the right than Kasich moving to the left .


Remember Obamacare was originally the republican alternative to Hillarycare and Then Romenycare so I actually it was Kasich who stayed consistent not the gop .


 

I watched Kasich's speech at the 1996 RNC. He was considered a hardliner back in the 1990's. As crazy as the Republicans were in the 1990's, they are far more radical now.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Kasich can f*** over the disadvantaged through his actual policies as much as he wants, but so long as his statements fit modern etiquette, then he’s perfectly acceptable and a praiseworthy, “voice of reason” Republican.

You mean like Paul Ryan?

“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor - that if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”
“Neither party cares about poor people, and they should.”


Kasich never advocated a single welfare cut during his presidential campaign.

He sure had no problem with it when he was one of Gingrich's minions in Congress in the 1990s.

Doesn't his support of Medicaid expansion, among several other policy shifts, indicate he has moderated his views since he was, undeniably, a right-wing congressman from The Young Turk faction of the party 20 + years ago?

I would say it’s more the gop who moved to the right than Kasich moving to the left .


Remember Obamacare was originally the republican alternative to Hillarycare and Then Romenycare so I actually it was Kasich who stayed consistent not the gop .


 

I watched Kasich's speech at the 1996 RNC. He was considered a hardliner back in the 1990's. As crazy as the Republicans were in the 1990's, they are far more radical now.

That truly is an accomplishment.