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« on: April 03, 2018, 09:50:20 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/politics/donald-trump-russia-mueller/index.html

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 09:54:26 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 10:04:23 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 10:08:23 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

Do special prosecutors ever actually recommend impeachment?  My recollection is that the Starr Report just laid out Starr's case of what Clinton did, but left the political question of whether it merited impeachment to Congress.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 10:10:08 PM »

Yeah, “not a criminal target” just means Mueller has no plans to indict Trump. That’s a separate question from whether or not Mueller’s report to Congress will recommend impeachment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 10:11:20 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

If you're referring to the obstruction of justice part, then yes (sorry if I made it sound like I didn't think that).

I was just essentially trying to say that Trump will most likely have to deal with that first before the final verdict on collusion happens.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 10:22:36 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

Do special prosecutors ever actually recommend impeachment?  My recollection is that the Starr Report just laid out Starr's case of what Clinton did, but left the political question of whether it merited impeachment to Congress.


They certainly can if they so choose

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

If you're referring to the obstruction of justice part, then yes (sorry if I made it sound like I didn't think that).

I was just essentially trying to say that Trump will most likely have to deal with that first before the final verdict on collusion happens.

Yeah, that was what I meant
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 10:25:05 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

Do special prosecutors ever actually recommend impeachment?  My recollection is that the Starr Report just laid out Starr's case of what Clinton did, but left the political question of whether it merited impeachment to Congress.


They certainly can if they so choose

Well, I wouldn't get my hopes on that.  Starr didn't, if memory serves.  I assume that Mueller will similarly lay out the case, but leave it up to Congress to decide what to do with it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 10:27:20 PM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

Do special prosecutors ever actually recommend impeachment?  My recollection is that the Starr Report just laid out Starr's case of what Clinton did, but left the political question of whether it merited impeachment to Congress.


They certainly can if they so choose

Well, I wouldn't get my hopes on that.  Starr didn't, if memory serves.  I assume that Mueller will similarly lay out the case, but leave it up to Congress to decide what to do with it.


At the very least, he'll say in the report that Trump committed obstruction of justice.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2018, 12:35:42 AM »

"For now".
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2018, 02:23:08 AM »

I'm curious when Mueller concludes his investigation. I predict it'll go into 2019.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2018, 02:43:58 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2018, 07:59:51 AM »

Things can change, so it'll be interesting to see how the probe continues from here.

However, if the obstruction of justice case gets pushed through, then chances are Russian collusion might take a backseat, as the former would most likely happen first and be the more damning at the time.

Either way, I don't see Trump himself getting out of any of this unscathed.

This just means Mueller's gonna recommend impeachment.

Do special prosecutors ever actually recommend impeachment?  My recollection is that the Starr Report just laid out Starr's case of what Clinton did, but left the political question of whether it merited impeachment to Congress.


They certainly can if they so choose

Well, I wouldn't get my hopes on that.  Starr didn't, if memory serves.  I assume that Mueller will similarly lay out the case, but leave it up to Congress to decide what to do with it.


At the very least, he'll say in the report that Trump committed obstruction of justice.

He can't not, right? Like, right after Trump committed one of his acts of obstruction of justice, he went on national television and said he'd done what he did with the explicit hope of obstructing justice.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2018, 08:42:15 AM »


"Not currently being considered a criminal target..."

It's all about getting the moron to sit down to an interview.  That's my thought.  But regardless of any of our thoughts on this forum, "not currently" means that tomorrow he might be a criminal target.

Your attempt at a gotcha moment to libtards has backfired.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2018, 08:44:10 AM »

Hail Trump!
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2018, 09:04:40 AM »


"Not currently being considered a criminal target..."

It's all about getting the moron to sit down to an interview.  That's my thought.  But regardless of any of our thoughts on this forum, "not currently" means that tomorrow he might be a criminal target.

Your attempt at a gotcha moment to libtards has backfired.

Uh.. what? I just saw the article on CNN and saw where it hadn't been posted here. Don't believe I was trying to pose it as a gotcha moment to the libtards. Is that how you perceived it?
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2018, 09:15:13 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2018, 09:37:20 AM by pbrower2a »

Witness: one has knowledge that  one acquired innocently that might be useful in a court of law. You rented a backhoe to someone accused of murder after he said that he was going to widen a drainage ditch.

Subject: one might have done something shady. You were paid very well to dig a small trench into which a body was subsequently found a few days later. You were told that the trench was for the family dog who had just died. If you do not cooperate you might become an accessory.

Target: basically a suspect. Your wife disappeared, and you put in a claim for proceeds from a life-insurance policy.



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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2018, 09:16:18 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2018, 10:11:33 AM by Hindsight is 2020 »


"Not currently being considered a criminal target..."

It's all about getting the moron to sit down to an interview.  That's my thought.  But regardless of any of our thoughts on this forum, "not currently" means that tomorrow he might be a criminal target.

Your attempt at a gotcha moment to libtards has backfired.

Uh.. what? I just saw the article on CNN and saw where it hadn't been posted here. Don't believe I was trying to pose it as a gotcha moment to the libtards. Is that how you perceived it?
TBF Limo posted that last night as a gotcha and so have some really dumb Trumpers on social media
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2018, 10:08:21 AM »


"Not currently being considered a criminal target..."

It's all about getting the moron to sit down to an interview.  That's my thought.  But regardless of any of our thoughts on this forum, "not currently" means that tomorrow he might be a criminal target.

Your attempt at a gotcha moment to libtards has backfired.

Uh.. what? I just saw the article on CNN and saw where it hadn't been posted here. Don't believe I was trying to pose it as a gotcha moment to the libtards. Is that how you perceived it?
TBF Limo posted that last night as a gotcha abd so have some really dumb Trumpers on social media

Yea...sorry if that's not how you meant the feel of this thread to go, but that's the impression I've gotten from so many other Trump cultists that I assumed it was going to be your intention as well.  If it wasn't then I apologize.
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2018, 12:23:18 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/the-report-that-trump-is-not-a-target-of-the-mueller-probe-is-actually-terrible-news-for-him.html

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Combined with what I posted in the indictments megathread, I don't really think this is good news for Trump. It's good news in that maybe Mueller isn't going to try and somehow get Trump indicted, but as explained above, there are reasons why Trump could be told he is not a 'target' but still be in trouble.
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2018, 01:14:59 PM »

I want to spank Trump harder than Stormy Daniels ever could in 2020, so I'm not anxious to see him indicted at the present moment.
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