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« on: February 15, 2018, 11:52:39 PM »

Some voted for Trump because they thought out of their gun.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2018, 12:28:42 AM »

The 2016 exit polls did not mention guns, but IMO this issue wasn't discussed as much as issues relating to the economy (especially trade). While it is (likely) true that most pro-gun voters supported Trump, I don't think this was decisive in the outcome.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2018, 12:29:18 AM »

Not really. Most anti-Clinton votes were about concerns over her corruption or that she'd be a third term of Obama. Guns had nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2018, 12:31:43 AM »
« Edited: February 16, 2018, 12:33:18 AM by AMB1996 »

Like abortion, it obviously turned out many Trump voters in rural areas, but (also like abortion) likely would have also done so against most other generic Democrats and with most other Republican nominees, so it's hard to put a number on it.

Sanders might be an exception. He could have credibly played moderate on the issue given how she attacked him on the issue and how actual revolutionary socialists feel about arming the proletariat.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 12:34:13 AM »

A lot. Her husband was the most anti-gun President ever (Brady bill, Assault Weapons ban, Gun-Free Schools act) and she underestimated how many single-issue voters there are who worry about their guns being taken.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2018, 03:44:03 PM »

A lot. Her husband was the most anti-gun President ever (Brady bill, Assault Weapons ban, Gun-Free Schools act) and she underestimated how many single-issue voters there are who worry about their guns being taken.
Actually, Richard Nixon was the most anti-gun President ever. he'd been quoted as saying guns are an abomination and that the US needed stricter gun control laws than the Brady Bill.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 03:52:19 PM »

Guns were one issue in a larger set of issues that all fell under the "I'm voting Trump because of the Supreme Court" tent. Of course, Trump did talk about the 2nd Amendment, but it wasn't a defining campaign issue.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 09:35:27 PM »

Guns were one issue in a larger set of issues that all fell under the "I'm voting Trump because of the Supreme Court" tent. Of course, Trump did talk about the 2nd Amendment, but it wasn't a defining campaign issue.

This.

Hillary's persona became the issue.  Both were obnoxious, but Trump proved entertaining.

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 10:39:06 PM »

I have a really hard time believing that there were a substantial number of voters who were considering both Trump and Hilary who voted for Trump because of gun rights.

There were voters on the fence who broke for other reasons (e.g., Comey letter, Clinton foundation, etc.) and maybe people who voted for Trump for general culture-war/urban-rural divide reasons who were unlikely to be persuaded solely by guns.

Feel free to prove me wrong with anecdotes, but given the way that gun control has become polarized along political lines in the last decade, I find it unlikely that there were any moderate voters basing their decisions off of gun policy.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 07:39:11 PM »

A recent poll showed that a majority of rural households own guns and that a third of gun owners vote on gun issues only. You do the math.
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