Quinnipiac: The tipping point on gun control has arrived

[Tekken_Guy]

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2521

New poll results:

Support for gun control by over 2-1; 66% to 31% (from 60% to 36% post Vegas/Texas)
Democrats lead with stopping gun violence: 52% to 31%
Americans disapprove of Trump's Parkland response: 52% to 33% (Americans approved of Vegas response 50% to 34%)
NRA support is slipping: Now 51% to 38% bad compared to 47% to 43% post Vegas.
67% too easy to buy a gun to 25% about right, compared to 59% to 33% post Vegas.
Congress needs to do more top stop gun violence: 75% to 17% (was between 23%-69% and 25%-67%)
40% think stricter gun laws are the solution (including 54% of millennials)
47% of Democrats call a pro-gun Democrat a deal breaker (watch out Schrader!) 67% of Republicans don't care about their gun views.

And everyone said that nothing's gonna change...

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

[Tekken_Guy]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

Support for an assault weapons ban is up 8 points since Orlando.

Support for the waiting period rule has inched up from 79 to 83 since Vegas.

A whopping 97% support background checks.

[kyc0705]

It's interesting that two different polls have asked about an assault rifle ban, and it's either been two-thirds support or barely even. I think the measure could gain solid support, but we need a movement that offers specific policy proposals. That should be the long term goal for the Never Again group.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

Talk about a Negative Nancy.

[kyc0705]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

Talk about a Negative Nancy.

I think I'm just going to add this link to my sig: https://www.propublica.org/article/gun-laws-politics-a-closer-look

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The GOP is going to get destroyed in November, and young people will make sure of it.

[The Mikado]

I think this issue is similar to marijuana, in which substantial legislative action will continue to be impossible for some time (note the word substantial), but state ballot referenda start going dramatically against the NRA's position and impose harsher state gun laws.

[henster]

I am VERY skeptical on the background check polling. I will keep pointing to the background check referendums in ME & NV. There was one in CA that only passed 63-37 and a WA one in 2014 that passed 55-45. If its really in the high 90s then these results don't make sense. And gun control groups heavily outspent the NRA in all of these referendums.

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=23&year=2016&f=1&off=61

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=32&year=2016&f=1&off=60

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=6&year=2016&f=0&off=61&elect=0

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=53&year=2014&f=0&off=60&elect=0

[Tekken_Guy]

I think this issue is similar to marijuana, in which substantial legislative action will continue to be impossible for some time (note the word substantial), but state ballot referenda start going dramatically against the NRA's position and impose harsher state gun laws.

I compare it more to immigration, which was once an issue that was split down the middle but has been moving leftward at breakneck speed. Anti-Immigrant rhetoric, hate crimes, and deportation threats have contributed in changing public opinion on that issue, just like mass shootings did with gun control.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

Talk about a Negative Nancy.

I think I'm just going to add this link to my sig: https://www.propublica.org/article/gun-laws-politics-a-closer-look

Leaving the NRA the ability to frame the narrative is a recipe for disaster, which is why specific proposals are essential if any change is to happen.

[DrScholl]

What gun control activists need to do is join the NRA and destroy it from the inside.

[Tekken_Guy]

I feel that the teen survivors' activism seems to have done more to get the public onto their side than the shooting itself.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

Talk about a Negative Nancy.

I think I'm just going to add this link to my sig: https://www.propublica.org/article/gun-laws-politics-a-closer-look

Leaving the NRA the ability to frame the narrative is a recipe for disaster, which is why specific proposals are essential if any change is to happen.

Nah, you are probably fine with the status quo since saying nothing will happen influences laws not to get passed.

[KingSweden]

I feel that the teen survivors' activism seems to have done more to get the public onto their side than the shooting itself.

Agreed. These are some remarkable young people.

I think this issue is similar to marijuana, in which substantial legislative action will continue to be impossible for some time (note the word substantial), but state ballot referenda start going dramatically against the NRA's position and impose harsher state gun laws.

Yes, I think this will be the case. We’ve seen it in many blue states already.

[Tekken_Guy]

Also, might I mention that about a third of the polling was conducted before the Emma Gonzalez speech. Polling probably was much more favorable to the gun control cause after than before.

[Meclazine for Israel]

I feel that the teen survivors' activism seems to have done more to get the public onto their side than the shooting itself.

Agreed. These are some remarkable young people.

Listening to the microphone sharing news conference with Trumpy, I was very moved by what the students said. The fat kids' dad summed it up nicely:

"It's common sense."

In what Universe can a mentally unstable 18 y.o. purchase a semi-automatic assault rifle?



Outside the military, there is no possible reason to own this gun. All of the mass killings other than Virginia Tech involve this gun or an AR15, some with bump stops which made the number of victims increase exponentially.

But if anyone has children, listening to this guy was pretty hard. I cannot comprehend how he remains so calm and strong:

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/parkland-father-andrew-pollack-gives-emotional-speech-to-trump-about-murdered-daughter-1166833731898
 

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I feel that the teen survivors' activism seems to have done more to get the public onto their side than the shooting itself.

Exactly, if they hadn't continued to speak out, the Republicans and the NRA would've successfully swept it under the rug like they always do.

[Tekken_Guy]

I feel that the teen survivors' activism seems to have done more to get the public onto their side than the shooting itself.

Exactly, if they hadn't continued to speak out, the Republicans and the NRA would've successfully swept it under the rug like they always do.

They kept it relevant enough so that Colbert, Noah, and Corden can talk about it a week after the fact (Kimmel and Oliver were the only late night hosts on air last week). They way they're going Seth Meyers and Samantha Bee, maybe even Fallon and Conan, should all be able to comment on it when they get back on air.

Opinions should continue to change as time goes on. A YouGov poll shows that there is a jump in people considering "Gun Control" as a very important issue. Still has a long way to go before it overtakes healthcare as the most important issue.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

None of those questions asked about specific proposals, so yeah, nothing's gonna change.

Talk about a Negative Nancy.

I think I'm just going to add this link to my sig: https://www.propublica.org/article/gun-laws-politics-a-closer-look

Leaving the NRA the ability to frame the narrative is a recipe for disaster, which is why specific proposals are essential if any change is to happen.

Nah, you are probably fine with the status quo since saying nothing will happen influences laws not to get passed.

NO, I'm not fine with the status quo, but neither do I want to ruin the chance to some incremental changes, such as a rise in the age at which one can buy a gun, by being either so vague or so expansive, nothing will happen.  Trying to get the AR-15 banned, much less getting all so-called assault rifles banned, is not possible for now.  It could be in the future if we succeed in getting some incremental changes that reduce the attraction and/or ease of owning a gun. (Which is exactly why the NRA never gives an inch; it thinks long-term and knows it is in their interests to have as many gun owners as possible.)