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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2017, 08:21:07 PM »

"Their bigotry totally justifies my bigotry!!!"
It justifies keeping their backwards lifestyle out of the west at the very least. You guys are going to reap what you've sown because of this attitude. America hopefully won't be taking in any French or German refugees either in fifty years. Heaven forbid you ruin our culture like your own.
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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2017, 09:01:27 PM »
« Edited: December 31, 2017, 01:23:18 AM by AndyHogan14 »

How does this justify Israel's actions in the West Bank? What a dumb point.

While I do not think what is going on in the West Bank is sustainable, it's really hard to come up with a solution. What should Israel do? If they unilaterally disengage, then you risk having another Gaza and I think it is pretty clear that trying to negotiate with the Palestinian Authority is pointless.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2017, 08:23:59 AM »

Disgusting, but as long as these people are non-violent, it's not a major issue.

So if people around you treat you with disdain that's ok as long as they don't beat the sh*t out of you? I suppose you also believe racism is perfectly fine as long as people don't start lynching minorities.
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2017, 08:26:42 AM »
« Edited: December 31, 2017, 08:28:32 AM by Beezer »

"You people ought to be beheaded", "Wallah, Hitler was great". Jewish student subject to massive bullying at Berlin high school, allowed to remain indoors during breaks.
http://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlernen/schule/berlin-wedding-mitschueler-bedrohen-juedischen-gymnasiasten-a-1184733.html

Hey, no major problem as long as they don't act on those beheading urges, amirite?
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2017, 08:31:21 AM »

"You people ought to be beheaded", "Wallah, Hitler was great". Jewish student subject to massive bullying at Berlin high school, allowed to remain indoors during breaks.
http://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlernen/schule/berlin-wedding-mitschueler-bedrohen-juedischen-gymnasiasten-a-1184733.html

Hey, no major problem as long as they don't act on those beheading urges, amirite?
But they don't fly Confederate flags, so it's all good according to our American liberal posters who think the world revolves around them.
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2017, 09:55:44 AM »

How does this justify Israel's actions in the West Bank? What a dumb point.
speaking of dumb posts, we weren't talking about people living in the West Bank.  Do try and keep up.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2017, 01:35:17 PM »

How does this justify Israel's actions in the West Bank? What a dumb point.
speaking of dumb posts, we weren't talking about people living in the West Bank.  Do try and keep up.

Umm,you were the one who brought up Israeli Arabs, which is something of a strawman given that most (non insane) criticism of Israel is with regards to its policies in Gaza and the West Bank (settlements, blackade, indulgence of price tag attacks etc...). Honestly, I hate to trot out the "both sides do it" line, but the constant whataboutery applied to the issue is pretty tedious tbh. And criticism of Israeli policy is justified, it is the stronger party, and as a developed, democracy and therefore needs to hold itself to higher standards, which, luckily, it still does.

Anyway, implying that Israeli Arabs don't face any discrimination is pretty ridiculous, and the fact that Arabs are often treated worse by autocratic regimes in the Arab world doesn't justify anti Arab discrimination in Israel (a minority population facing discrimination is hardly unique to Israel of course, but it is still an issue worth addressing).

The comments in the article are distressing of course, and indicative of how Israel has been turned into a scapegoat (and victim) of failures elsewhere. (having said that, my schoolboy German has all but rusted over, but I don't think the article specifies that these are recent immigrants?)
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2017, 02:06:36 PM »

How does this justify Israel's actions in the West Bank? What a dumb point.
speaking of dumb posts, we weren't talking about people living in the West Bank.  Do try and keep up.

Umm,you were the one who brought up Israeli Arabs,
no, I was adding another data point to the poster right in front of me
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except he and I were referring to the insane sh**t the Muslims in Germany were ranting about.

but yeah, the constant whataboutery applied to this issue is tedious.
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2017, 02:37:54 PM »

How does this justify Israel's actions in the West Bank? What a dumb point.
speaking of dumb posts, we weren't talking about people living in the West Bank.  Do try and keep up.

Umm,you were the one who brought up Israeli Arabs,
no, I was adding another data point to the poster right in front of me
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except he and I were referring to the insane sh**t the Muslims in Germany were ranting about.

but yeah, the constant whataboutery applied to this issue is tedious.

My mistake, but he did bring up the "left" as well, and suggesting that criticism of Israel is unfair while ignoring the main factors driving it is misleading
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2018, 03:16:58 PM »

Almost nobody on the left cares about this.

I do! Sad

Along with anti-Semitism in general - Left, Right, Center,Christian, Muslim, non-religious - doesn't matter. I think you and I can both agree that anti-Semitism is - still - alarmingly (and increasingly?) prevalent among many "goy" of different backgrounds. And I say that as someone who isn't Jewish. Tongue
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2018, 03:25:37 PM »

Also re: the Israel Arabs facing discrimination thing: from what I've read and heard that has just as much - if not more - of an ethnic or arguably, even racial basis than a religious one.

ie. there is a significant and obviously quite controversial debate within Israel about how Ashkhenazi Jews dominate the country at the expense of many other Israelis - Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews included in addition to Arab-Israeli Christians and Muslims. I'm no expert on this ofc.
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