Is the reason liberals hate white people/straight men/Russia

[Koharu]

I'm married to a straight white guy, so I definitely don't hate them.

Seriously, though. This is a lot of confusing hatred of actions and behaviors with hatred of individuals. I hate bigotry, and will work against it whenever possible. That means calling out bigots, and bigots quite often are the most privileged people, aka straight white guys. As a straight white woman, I also have inherent privilege and I have had my missteps pointed out to me. It's embarrassing and I have gotten defensive, just as those being called out now must feel, but it's important to remember that being called out isn't saying you're a bad person. It's giving you an opportunity to change. It's saying, "Hey, that wasn't cool, but you now have the chance to not do that again." It's when one has been called out and been told multiple times that their actions are inappropriate and they are unwilling to listen or change that the judgement tends to become personal.

In regards to Russia, I have nothing against the people of Russia, nor the the country as a whole. I do, however, have issues with Putin and his party, as they are obviously running the country as a democracy in name only. The people are not being allowed basic human rights, and those who try to speak out about the ills of their government are punished harshly. That is not right. I do not see "The Russians!" as some big threat like they were in the cold war. I do, however, believe they interfered with our election mostly as means to help keep their own people under control. If we, as the major example of a democracy, flounder and struggle, they have all the more reason to cling to power as they have it and also lie to their people about how superior they are to us.

[uti2]

All conservatives hated Russia until 2016 when Trump loved them again.

But the main thing is we shouldn't make fun of people w/ disabilities.

George W. Bush loved Russia, he looked into Putin's soul and called him a 'Good Man'.

[MasterJedi]

All conservatives hated Russia until 2016 when Trump loved them again.

But the main thing is we shouldn't make fun of people w/ disabilities.

George W. Bush loved Russia, he looked into Putin's soul and called him a 'Good Man'.

Then I should say from 2008-2016 they hated Russia. But I know Bush liked Russia many conservatives didn't necessarily like them but didn't hate them either.

[Santander]

The RINOs here will never admit it, but Naso is a better representation of the GOP than they will ever be.

IceSpear is right.

[PragmaticPopulist]

I'm a straight white guy who hates Russia, so what does that make me?

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

I'm a mostly straight white guy who hates Russia, so what does that make me?

[ProudModerate2]

LOL.
I love this thread.
I'm sure that ReaganFan realizes that every single post so far, is opposite of what he was "hoping" to see.

[Badger]

say it with me, y'all:

"Moderate. Republicans. Are. Oxymorons."

I will say endangered

[Perlen vor den Schweinen]

Didn't Trump say we've got to start loving everybody? These folks are some of the most hated groups in the country right now. Trump is truly a savior to all. So much love like you've never imagined. Our fundamentals will be shaken. Maybe he can teach the liberals a thing or two.

[elcorazon]

Is the reason that liberals are at the present time so anti-white people, straight men and Russia solely because of Donald Trump? Or is it deeper than that?

It's way deeper than that. I hate white men so much mostly because white men are the cause of all problems in the world, but particularly in America. They caused slavery. They caused the Civil War! They caused the Holocaust! They caused all of the problems ever, pretty much. Without white men, the world would be a better place. I support all white men being killed in a firing line tomorrow.

Except for the gay men, they should live. Also Russia needs to be eliminated from all globes.

[HisGrace]

All conservatives hated Russia until 2016 when Trump loved them again.

[Sestak]

Ultraprogressives are not liberals. Liberals believe in the rights of individuals and empowering individuals. In civil liberties and in equal opportunity.

Liberals do not 'hate' white people. Or straight men. The reason you will see so much of this & other ultraprogressive/hyper-PC behavior on college campuses/schools/other very liberal places is this:

The ultraprogressives are probably the loudest and most vocal group within each of these areas. However, they make up a minority. Most are just moderate or "standard" progressive. However, they're not conservatives. Not by any means. And most still very much dislike conservatism (especially social conservatism). Because of this, they do not want to be labeled conservatives. However, the ultraprogressives often go around and label everyone who does not completely agree with their ideas as "conservatives". Rather than letting this happen, most liberals just choose to "go with the flow" that has been set by the ultraprogressives, despite the fact that most will have some disagreement with their ideas.

[elcorazon]

Ultraprogressives are not liberals. Liberals believe in the rights of individuals and empowering individuals. In civil liberties and in equal opportunity.

Liberals do not 'hate' white people. Or straight men. The reason you will see so much of this & other ultraprogressive/hyper-PC behavior on college campuses/schools/other very liberal places is this:

The ultraprogressives are probably the loudest and most vocal group within each of these areas. However, they make up a minority. Most are just moderate or "standard" progressive. However, they're not conservatives. Not by any means. And most still very much dislike conservatism (especially social conservatism). Because of this, they do not want to be labeled conservatives. However, the ultraprogressives often go around and label everyone who does not completely agree with their ideas as "conservatives". Rather than letting this happen, most liberals just choose to "go with the flow" that has been set by the ultraprogressives, despite the fact that most will have some disagreement with their ideas.

wtf is this word salad?

[Sestak]

Ultraprogressives are not liberals. Liberals believe in the rights of individuals and empowering individuals. In civil liberties and in equal opportunity.

Liberals do not 'hate' white people. Or straight men. The reason you will see so much of this & other ultraprogressive/hyper-PC behavior on college campuses/schools/other very liberal places is this:

The ultraprogressives are probably the loudest and most vocal group within each of these areas. However, they make up a minority. Most are just moderate or "standard" progressive. However, they're not conservatives. Not by any means. And most still very much dislike conservatism (especially social conservatism). Because of this, they do not want to be labeled conservatives. However, the ultraprogressives often go around and label everyone who does not completely agree with their ideas as "conservatives". Rather than letting this happen, most liberals just choose to "go with the flow" that has been set by the ultraprogressives, despite the fact that most will have some disagreement with their ideas.

wtf is this word salad?

This is me being ing tired with the idea that "all liberals hate straight white men" and that sort of bullsh*t we've seen from the right.

[elcorazon]

Ultraprogressives are not liberals. Liberals believe in the rights of individuals and empowering individuals. In civil liberties and in equal opportunity.

Liberals do not 'hate' white people. Or straight men. The reason you will see so much of this & other ultraprogressive/hyper-PC behavior on college campuses/schools/other very liberal places is this:

The ultraprogressives are probably the loudest and most vocal group within each of these areas. However, they make up a minority. Most are just moderate or "standard" progressive. However, they're not conservatives. Not by any means. And most still very much dislike conservatism (especially social conservatism). Because of this, they do not want to be labeled conservatives. However, the ultraprogressives often go around and label everyone who does not completely agree with their ideas as "conservatives". Rather than letting this happen, most liberals just choose to "go with the flow" that has been set by the ultraprogressives, despite the fact that most will have some disagreement with their ideas.

wtf is this word salad?

This is me being ing tired with the idea that "all liberals hate straight white men" and that sort of bullsh*t we've seen from the right.

I get that, but it almost seems like you've ceded the notion that it somehow seems that way and that there is any significant group for him this is even close to true, which it isn't.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

say it with me, y'all:

"Moderate. Republicans. Are. Oxymorons."

There are some moderate republicans in the GOP base, and in the New England area.

actual moderate republicans are very rare on the federal level though

[Crumpets]

Just to pile on - I'm not only a straight, white, male liberal, but I'm also a huge Russophile. I also seriously liked Donald Trump until about 2009 or so. I further think the Mueller investigation needs to be given the full faith of the US government, and anyone implicated by it removed from power and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't see where there is any cognitive dissonance here.

[elcorazon]

Just to pile on - I'm not only a straight, white, male liberal, but I'm also a huge Russophile. I also seriously liked Donald Trump until about 2009 or so. I further think the Mueller investigation needs to be given the full faith of the US government, and anyone implicated by it removed from power and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't see where there is any cognitive dissonance here.

I don't understand this at all. You actually LIKED Trump in 2008 and previous? I can't even fathom how this is possible. Unless perhaps you are about 21 years old today (or younger).

[Crumpets]

Just to pile on - I'm not only a straight, white, male liberal, but I'm also a huge Russophile. I also seriously liked Donald Trump until about 2009 or so. I further think the Mueller investigation needs to be given the full faith of the US government, and anyone implicated by it removed from power and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't see where there is any cognitive dissonance here.

I don't understand this at all. You actually LIKED Trump in 2008 and previous? I can't even fathom how this is possible. Unless perhaps you are about 21 years old today (or younger).

It's pretty simple - I started watching the Apprentice when I was about 10 or 11 and I liked him as a character. I liked him enough that I started reading some of his books and looked up to him as someone with a big personality who achieved a lot. I didn't know at the time about his views on the Central Park Five, his history of discriminatory housing, his many business failures, or his rampant sexism. The only image I had of him was the one that he and NBC wanted us to see. If I had known, it would have probably changed my opinion of him pretty dramatically. I feel like he kind of fell off the radar for a few years before he returned as chief birther, which is when my opinion of him really changed.

[elcorazon]

I hated him in the 80's. I never understood why anyone would ever like him.