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« on: December 01, 2017, 03:54:13 AM »

Dianne Feinstein (D): 45%
Kevin de Leon (D): 21%
Undecided: 33%


Feinstein favorable: 51%
Feinstein unfavorable: 39%
Don't know/Never heard of: 9%

de Leon favorable: 17%
de Leon unfavorable: 19%
Don't know/Never heard of: 65%


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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 04:15:29 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 04:43:16 AM »

Thinking of moving to CA to vote for de Leon (jk jk)
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 08:08:54 AM »

Is there any chance the CA Senate race ISN'T D v D? Or is that almost guaranteed?
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2017, 10:22:10 AM »

Is there any chance the CA Senate race ISN'T D v D? Or is that almost guaranteed?

It's almost guaranteed. The Gov race could conceivably be D vs. R though.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 10:34:05 AM »

Is there any chance the CA Senate race ISN'T D v D? Or is that almost guaranteed?

It's almost guaranteed. The Gov race could conceivably be D vs. R though.
Seems pretty unlikely to me. the GOP bench in California is pretty weak.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2017, 10:40:59 AM »

Is there any chance the CA Senate race ISN'T D v D? Or is that almost guaranteed?

It's almost guaranteed. The Gov race could conceivably be D vs. R though.
Seems pretty unlikely to me. the GOP bench in California is pretty weak.

This will crush the CA's GOP Reps. I love it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2017, 10:49:27 AM »

Is there any chance the CA Senate race ISN'T D v D? Or is that almost guaranteed?

It's almost guaranteed. The Gov race could conceivably be D vs. R though.
Seems pretty unlikely to me. the GOP bench in California is pretty weak.

This poll shows one of the Rs fairly close to Villagarosa: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=276979.0
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 10:50:41 AM »

Is there any chance the CA Senate race ISN'T D v D? Or is that almost guaranteed?

It's almost guaranteed. The Gov race could conceivably be D vs. R though.
Seems pretty unlikely to me. the GOP bench in California is pretty weak.

This poll shows one of the Rs fairly close to Villagarosa: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=276979.0
Close as in he's still in third place and 6% behind Villagarosa.
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 03:29:47 PM »

I hope both the Senate and Governor Race ends up in a D v D match in the General, since that would basically guarantee massive House gains for the Dems in the state, and help pass liberal ballot propositions / help defeat conservative ballot propositions.

(I also hope De Leon defeats Feinstein)
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 04:49:17 PM »

What's also interesting here is that 66% of Californians are supporting Democratic candidates versus 34% undecided, contrasted against the 61% that voted for HRC and 31% that voted Trump....

I'm not sure that California is done swinging Hard Democratic in the era of Trump, and it is quite possible we will see something akin to the '17 Virginia results for down-ballot races in Cali in '18, not to mention a decent number of US-House pickup seats.

It is difficult to fathom just how massively the Republican Party brand has collapsed in California in just barely over a Decade....

Regarding the poll, I would argue that this actually shows Feinstein is in relatively good shape, despite a lot of resentment and animosity towards her from the Left of the Democratic Party, especially regarding the perception among many California Democrats that she crossed a line in her support for HRC during the primaries rather than let the process play out and the voters decide their Party nominee in '16.... It looks like among many Bernie '16 Cali voters are moving towards a "forgive and forget stage" towards Feinstein and are willing to bury the hatchet.

Still 2018 is a long ways away in California elections, but at this point I think it's looking better than might have been expected for Feinstein among the heavily Democratic and Democratic leaning Indies of Cali....
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 04:58:50 PM »

Regarding the poll, I would argue that this actually shows Feinstein is in relatively good shape, despite a lot of resentment and animosity towards her from the Left of the Democratic Party, especially regarding the perception among many California Democrats that she crossed a line in her support for HRC during the primaries rather than let the process play out and the voters decide their Party nominee in '16.... It looks like among many Bernie '16 Cali voters are moving towards a "forgive and forget stage" towards Feinstein and are willing to bury the hatchet.

Still 2018 is a long ways away in California elections, but at this point I think it's looking better than might have been expected for Feinstein among the heavily Democratic and Democratic leaning Indies of Cali....

It's important to note that the vast majority of those polled don't know de Leon, but they do know Feinstein. de Leon still has half a year to introduce himself and is in the enviable position of building how Californians view him. Feinstein can't reintroduce herself to California. Yes, Feinstein is favored, naturally, but don't count de Leon out yet.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 06:28:14 PM »

Regarding the poll, I would argue that this actually shows Feinstein is in relatively good shape, despite a lot of resentment and animosity towards her from the Left of the Democratic Party, especially regarding the perception among many California Democrats that she crossed a line in her support for HRC during the primaries rather than let the process play out and the voters decide their Party nominee in '16.... It looks like among many Bernie '16 Cali voters are moving towards a "forgive and forget stage" towards Feinstein and are willing to bury the hatchet.

Still 2018 is a long ways away in California elections, but at this point I think it's looking better than might have been expected for Feinstein among the heavily Democratic and Democratic leaning Indies of Cali....

It's important to note that the vast majority of those polled don't know de Leon, but they do know Feinstein. de Leon still has half a year to introduce himself and is in the enviable position of building how Californians view him. Feinstein can't reintroduce herself to California. Yes, Feinstein is favored, naturally, but don't count de Leon out yet.

Absolutely I agree and Feinstein obviously has some major weaknesses among key elements of the California Democratic Party base....

What is often forgotten is actually how well Bernie Sanders performed among Latino-Americans in California in the 2016 Pres Primary, not to mention pretty solid performances from African-American and Asian-American Communities as well....

California was essentially a footnote to the '16 Dem Primary process, and it took a month for us to finally get the raw numbers.

The media narrative was already "baked in", that the Bernie coalition was heavily White, Rural & Small town, College Students, and WWC....

Primary results like those in Illinois were seen as an outlier, or a deviation from the norm, where Bernie almost won Illinois because of his strong performance among Latino and Africian-American communities in the City of Chicago....

California is a bit trickier, because the Millennial Voters in Cali tend to skew heavily "Minority-Majority" and from SoCal to NorCal, from Bakersfield to Sacramento voted very differently from their parents in the Democratic Primary.

There was a whole thread on the '16 Cali Dem Primary results, and the numbers definitely indicate that Feinstein is vulnerable from the Left....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=238320.msg5136283#msg5136283

I would imagine that if Bernie were to show up in Cali and campaign for De Leon, these numbers would shift dramatically.... I suspect that would only happen if he decides not to run for the 2020 US Pres Democratic Party ticket, and even if he does not, it's pretty clear that there is a whole new generation of Californian Voters that are itching for a different style of Democratic Senator to represent the California as we march forward into the 21st Century.

So yeah, this race isn't over yet, and plus De Leon vs Feinstein could well be a SoCal vs Norcal style matchup, with the Central Valley and rural Norcal being the wildcards...

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 08:32:32 PM »

I wouldn't put the nails in the coffins of CA House Republicans yet. There's nothing conservatives in this state love more than a good ballot proposition. Get an anti-sanctuary city initiative on the ballot and they'll still come out and vote. They may leave an office or two blank, but they'll still come out to vote.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2017, 08:42:51 PM »

I wouldn't put the nails in the coffins of CA House Republicans yet. There's nothing conservatives in this state love more than a good ballot proposition. Get an anti-sanctuary city initiative on the ballot and they'll still come out and vote. They may leave an office or two blank, but they'll still come out to vote.

I think it is more likely that the lack of a Republican running for either Senate or Governor would heavily reduce Republican turnout to the point that it has coattail downballot effects on propositions, especially in Congressional Districts that end up in a D v D race.
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