Federal Court rules Mulvaney, not English, is the rightful CFPB Acting Director
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2017, 11:27:41 PM »

This is ridiculous.
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2017, 11:28:53 PM »

At least I didn't lose the popular vote.

That's an interesting hill to die on, but the loser of the 2016 election didn't nominate or confirm this weasel English to anything either. So I suspect that's not much of an answer.

Why are you so fixed on this "who nominated English" bs line of yours ?
No one here is talking or debating about the nomination of English. It is about who is the temporary individual in charge of the agency in question.
Why don't you read the article (educate yourself) or read the entire thread before you comment. Otherwise you look like you have egg on your face.
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2017, 11:38:48 PM »

At least I didn't lose the popular vote.

That's an interesting hill to die on, but the loser of the 2016 election didn't nominate or confirm this weasel English to anything either. So I suspect that's not much of an answer.

Why are you so fixed on this "who nominated English" bs line of yours ?
No one here is talking or debating about the nomination of English. It is about who is the temporary individual in charge of the agency in question.
Why don't you read the article (educate yourself) or read the entire thread before you comment. Otherwise you look like you have egg on your face.

Nah, I am pretty sure you do, which is why the judge put the weasel English in her place.
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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2017, 11:40:30 PM »

At least I didn't lose the popular vote.

That's an interesting hill to die on, but the loser of the 2016 election didn't nominate or confirm this weasel English to anything either. So I suspect that's not much of an answer.

Why are you so fixed on this "who nominated English" bs line of yours ?
No one here is talking or debating about the nomination of English. It is about who is the temporary individual in charge of the agency in question.
Why don't you read the article (educate yourself) or read the entire thread before you comment. Otherwise you look like you have egg on your face.

Nah, I am pretty sure you do, which is why the judge put the weasel English in her place.

Just admit it, Krazen, you don't give a sh[inks] about what the law is. If the political parties were reversed, you'd be calling for the judge to get the chair.
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2017, 11:44:46 PM »

WHY
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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2017, 11:50:00 PM »

Nah, I am pretty sure you do, which is why the judge put the weasel English in her place.

Just admit it, Krazen, you don't give a sh[inks] about what the law is. If the political parties were reversed, you'd be calling for the judge to get the chair.

It doesn't matter much what I want. Republicans are expected to behave with class and dignity upon losing elections. Unlike the losers of the 2014 and 2016 elections we don't start acting like animals.

It's smart in a way. The Democrat party figured it would have difficulty in actually winning an election and tried to create some 4th branch of government unaccountable to either of the first 2. So if the voters throw out the Democrat party again and against they would at least have their so called CFPB.

No wonder the 3 judge panel on the DC circuit gave the US President power to dismiss the CFPB director. I suspect the DC en banc court could simply dismantle the entire agency structure. Who would really tolerate this arrangement? I am not sure. Probably not Neil Gorsuch.
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« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2017, 12:06:55 AM »

Yup. Atlas armchair lawyering is as bad as ever.
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2017, 01:18:38 AM »

Just to clarify, you don't need to go through senate confirmation a second time if you switch positions within, I believe, 3 years.

Wrong, tho there may be a Senate Rule that obviates the need to hold hearings in such a case.  Not only that, but Mulvaney has at most 300 days to act as Acting Director.  That's a problem Trump is running into with his other acting appointments under the same FVRA he used to put Mulvaney in charge here.  Presidents don't get to avoid the need for Senate confirmation by shuffling people around.
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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2017, 01:42:38 AM »

Just to clarify, you don't need to go through senate confirmation a second time if you switch positions within, I believe, 3 years.

Wrong, tho there may be a Senate Rule that obviates the need to hold hearings in such a case.  Not only that, but Mulvaney has at most 300 days to act as Acting Director.  That's a problem Trump is running into with his other acting appointments under the same FVRA he used to put Mulvaney in charge here.  Presidents don't get to avoid the need for Senate confirmation by shuffling people around.

What happens after 300 days?

And Daveosupremo, your last point seems to suggest that English would have been a permanent director. She would just be an acting director until someone else is confirmed.
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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2017, 01:49:55 AM »

I guess there will be an appeal, right?
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« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2017, 02:01:49 AM »


If English wants to appeal, Yes.
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« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2017, 02:54:24 AM »

Also English became the deputy only one day before Cordray's resignation, and there are reports that this whole stuff was Cordray and English idea, others from CFPB were against.
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« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2017, 07:08:07 AM »

Yup. Atlas armchair lawyering is as bad as ever.

The smart move from President Trump would be to simply adjourn the US Senate after the tax bill is passed and install recess appointments.
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« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2017, 11:30:31 AM »

Yup. Atlas armchair lawyering is as bad as ever.

The smart move from President Trump would be to simply adjourn the US Senate after the tax bill is passed and install recess appointments.

I don't think the Senate is dumb enough to give him the chance. Even if it did I doubt he has people ready for the positions.
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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2017, 11:48:00 AM »

Judicial independence is a wonderful thing that ought to be preserved Smiley. Sadly our resident Democrats don't agree and already started attacking our independent judges.
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« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2017, 12:15:35 PM »

I think we should keep in mind that this was an emergency injunction so there is a higher burden of proof of immediate harm. The judge did not actually rule on merits; however, his inclination that she would probably lose on the merits influenced his decision not to grant an emergency injunction.
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