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« on: November 28, 2017, 12:55:52 AM »

Moore (R) - 49%
Jones (D) - 44%

(Sampled 11/26-11/27)

https://medium.com/@ChngRsrch/moore-opens-up-49-44-lead-in-alabama-just-9-of-trump-voters-believe-allegations-against-moore-6d74baa84a68

Previously was Jones +3 (sampled 11/15-11/16)
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 12:56:52 AM »

Hopefully the Congressional day care center hires extra security
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 12:57:43 AM »

I'm making it official: I refuse to pay attention to any poll results other than those posted on December 12.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 12:59:59 AM »

If Moore does win liberals should be allowed to use "Alabama values" as an attacking point like the GOP does to California
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 02:43:51 AM »

Is this a Credible Polling Outfit, and if so what is their track record overall, track record regarding Alabama polling in particular, and an "house effects" assuming that it is a credible outfit?

When was the poll conducted, it appears that it may have been conducted over the Thanksgiving Weekend, in which case obviously that raises some major questions....

Why isn't there a direct link that includes items such as total number of voters surveyed, landline/mobile, and any type of methodology associated that we are used to seeing with standard polling outfits?

I'm not doubting that maybe they might be observing shifts towards Moore over the past few weeks, but obviously would rather prefer a more known and reputable pollster like Fox, in arguably one of the most difficult type of elections to determine a Likely Voter turnout model, even assuming the methodology is sound.....

Call me skeptical until we see other more established pollsters showing similar shifts, and even then this is a wildcard of an election, any way you look at it....

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 02:45:29 AM »

Is this a Credible Polling Outfit, and if so what is their track record overall, track record regarding Alabama polling in particular, and an "house effects" assuming that it is a credible outfit?

When was the poll conducted, it appears that it may have been conducted over the Thanksgiving Weekend, in which case obviously that raises some major questions....

Why isn't there a direct link that includes items such as total number of voters surveyed, landline/mobile, and any type of methodology associated that we are used to seeing with standard polling outfits?

I'm not doubting that maybe they might be observing shifts towards Moore over the past few weeks, but obviously would rather prefer a more known and reputable pollster like Fox, in arguably one of the most difficult type of elections to determine a Likely Voter turnout model, even assuming the methodology is sound.....

Call me skeptical until we see other more established pollsters showing similar shifts, and even then this is a wildcard of an election, any way you look at it....



change research is not a legit polling company. They randomly popped up after the moore allegations. They have never polled other states in other races. They were formed weeks ago, literally.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 03:52:26 AM »

Is this a Credible Polling Outfit, and if so what is their track record overall, track record regarding Alabama polling in particular, and an "house effects" assuming that it is a credible outfit?

When was the poll conducted, it appears that it may have been conducted over the Thanksgiving Weekend, in which case obviously that raises some major questions....

Why isn't there a direct link that includes items such as total number of voters surveyed, landline/mobile, and any type of methodology associated that we are used to seeing with standard polling outfits?

I'm not doubting that maybe they might be observing shifts towards Moore over the past few weeks, but obviously would rather prefer a more known and reputable pollster like Fox, in arguably one of the most difficult type of elections to determine a Likely Voter turnout model, even assuming the methodology is sound.....

Call me skeptical until we see other more established pollsters showing similar shifts, and even then this is a wildcard of an election, any way you look at it....



change research is not a legit polling company. They randomly popped up after the moore allegations. They have never polled other states in other races. They were formed weeks ago, literally.

Thanks--- 'nuff said!!!

Used to be more up on this during the '08-'16 GE, but sometimes during these events dealing these random outfits is more like a game of "whack-a-mole"....

Maybe this should just get moved in the "Internal" or "Round file" category....

Actually looking forward to the next Fox Poll, where we can get some real data !!!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2017, 08:22:08 AM »

Wonderful poll for Roy Moore.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2017, 09:43:17 AM »


change research is not a legit polling company. They randomly popped up after the moore allegations. They have never polled other states in other races. They were formed weeks ago, literally.

Wrong. Their MT-AL, SC-5, VA, and NJ polls were pretty accurate.
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2017, 10:44:43 AM »

If Moore does win liberals should be allowed to use "Alabama values" as an attacking point like the GOP does to California
Democrats are too nice to do that, unfortunately.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2017, 11:30:16 AM »


I wondered how long it would take you to crawl out of your hole.

So tell us which pleases you more about Roy Moore personally. Is it his ability to fight against the war on whites, or the fact that he makes the world safer and more accepting for sexual assault?

Now go back to the redistricting thread so you can do your requisite amount of kissing muon ass so he decides it would be lonely there if he had to ban you like any mod admin with a spine would have done a year ago.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2017, 12:35:19 PM »

F**king Alabunga
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2017, 03:13:50 PM »

I'm making it official: I refuse to pay attention to any poll results other than those posted on December 12.

You can ignore me, you can even ignore the polls, but you'll never be able to ignore Alabama voters electing a pedophile. Your bubble is going to get popped very abruptly in 2 weeks.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2017, 03:26:10 PM »

Just what I thought. Access Hollywood all over again. People decide that they don't want to care.
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2017, 03:27:38 PM »

Just what I thought. Access Hollywood all over again. People decide that they don't want to care.

This isn't the best analogy. Trump would've lost (but still gotten ~40% or so of the vote) if he was an exposed pedophile. The only reason Moore is going to win is because it's Alabama, so he can afford to have a gigantic drop off from generic R and still win.
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2017, 03:29:17 PM »

As I said -- Middle America is misogynist.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2017, 03:34:32 PM »

As I said -- Middle America is misogynist.
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2017, 07:08:30 PM »


change research is not a legit polling company. They randomly popped up after the moore allegations. They have never polled other states in other races. They were formed weeks ago, literally.

Wrong. Their MT-AL, SC-5, VA, and NJ polls were pretty accurate.
lol. They had Perriello +8 on June 10
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2017, 07:32:40 PM »


change research is not a legit polling company. They randomly popped up after the moore allegations. They have never polled other states in other races. They were formed weeks ago, literally.

Wrong. Their MT-AL, SC-5, VA, and NJ polls were pretty accurate.
lol. They had Perriello +8 on June 10

I don't know if this pollster is reliable or not, but primaries are always more volatile and harder to poll accurately because both candidates are usually acceptable to most voters.
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2017, 07:52:34 PM »

moore's prob going to win this as people care less about his character
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