Indiana using flawed software to purge voters

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lawsuit-indiana-purging-voters-using-software-thats-99-inaccurate

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[Virginiá]

That kind of error rate alone should disqualify the entire program from use in any state. Especially when that massive error rate is by design. They are purposefully excluding a lot of other identifying data so false matches are made, because a smaller registration roll is a good thing for them, at least if you consider the kinds of voters most likely to be purged using this service.

[BuckeyeNut]

It's not a bug, it's a feature! /s

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

This isn't surprising. Indiana has been a "pioneer" in aggressive voter laws for years now, dating back to Rokita's time as Secy of State.

I don't know how long Crosscheck has been in place in Indiana, but this strikes me as something Donnelly conceivably could hit Rokita with in a hypothetical Senate matchup, even though I think Messer is a more likely opponent.

[Hoosier_Nick]

This shouldn't be surprising. The Indiana GOP has been waging a war on voting rights for over a decade.

[The Arizonan]

This shouldn't be surprising. The Indiana GOP has been waging a war on voting rights for over a decade.

What? Why?

[Figueira]

But Atlas Republicans told me that voter suppression doesn't real!

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

This shouldn't be surprising. The Indiana GOP has been waging a war on voting rights for over a decade.

What? Why?

Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181 (2008). https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/28cnd-scotus.html

[Hoosier_Nick]

This shouldn't be surprising. The Indiana GOP has been waging a war on voting rights for over a decade.

What? Why?

Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181 (2008). https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/28cnd-scotus.html

This. The Marion County GOP is probably the best example but almost all Democratic-leaning counties have been shut out, while the GOP ones have very easy early voting. Marion County, a county with 800,000 people, had ONE early voting location with no parking. Compare this to Ohio county which has 6,000 people and SIX early voting locations. You don't even have to go far. Our neighboring county, Hamilton, is very republican. But they had NINE early voting locations despite having a much smaller population. This is all because of the way the GOP decided who can have them, by allowing the GOP representative in every county to block more  early voting stations. The Democrat in every other county did not block the stations. It's black and white, really.

But in addition to that, we have really strict voter ID laws and a SoS who has deregistered over 400K voters, as well. The egregious gerrymander at the statehouse has also decreased turnout somewhat I'm sure. I could go on and on.

[muon2]

It's important to understand the context of the program. The Interstate Crosscheck Program was created back in 2005 in conformance with the NVRA as a tool between several states (up to 22 joined) to identify people who had moved and registered elsewhere. It only uses a two-point verification and its system databases are showing the age with often outdated information. Because it was started in KS it remains under the operational control of that state.

In 2012 the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) began with 7 states and now includes 20. Like Crosscheck it is designed to comply with NVRA, but it uses 3 or 4 point verification and thus has many fewer false positives. ERIC uses more modern databases with more secure technology and is jointly controlled by its member states.

It's easy to pick on Crosscheck as a political target based on the current KS SoS, but its problems are mainly due to its age and the way it was set up at the start.

[Figueira]

It's important to understand the context of the program. The Interstate Crosscheck Program was created back in 2005 in conformance with the NVRA as a tool between several states (up to 22 joined) to identify people who had moved and registered elsewhere. It only uses a two-point verification and its system databases are showing the age with often outdated information. Because it was started in KS it remains under the operational control of that state.

In 2012 the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) began with 7 states and now includes 20. Like Crosscheck it is designed to comply with NVRA, but it uses 3 or 4 point verification and thus has many fewer false positives. ERIC uses more modern databases with more secure technology and is jointly controlled by its member states.

It's easy to pick on Crosscheck as a political target based on the current KS SoS, but its problems are mainly due to its age and the way it was set up at the start.

Even so, there are clearly political motivations behind the fact that they still use it despite its problems.

[muon2]

It's important to understand the context of the program. The Interstate Crosscheck Program was created back in 2005 in conformance with the NVRA as a tool between several states (up to 22 joined) to identify people who had moved and registered elsewhere. It only uses a two-point verification and its system databases are showing the age with often outdated information. Because it was started in KS it remains under the operational control of that state.

In 2012 the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) began with 7 states and now includes 20. Like Crosscheck it is designed to comply with NVRA, but it uses 3 or 4 point verification and thus has many fewer false positives. ERIC uses more modern databases with more secure technology and is jointly controlled by its member states.

It's easy to pick on Crosscheck as a political target based on the current KS SoS, but its problems are mainly due to its age and the way it was set up at the start.

Even so, there are clearly political motivations behind the fact that they still use it despite its problems.

Users of either system are not forced to do anything with matches that are found. Some states pass results down to the county authorities and leave it to them pursuant to state law. KS notwithstanding there are real costs associated with going to ERIC. I know there are states that weren't motivated by politics, but primarily cost. Some of those states are now reevaluating the cost due to the forced FOIA data release, again not because of politics.

[Figueira]

It's important to understand the context of the program. The Interstate Crosscheck Program was created back in 2005 in conformance with the NVRA as a tool between several states (up to 22 joined) to identify people who had moved and registered elsewhere. It only uses a two-point verification and its system databases are showing the age with often outdated information. Because it was started in KS it remains under the operational control of that state.

In 2012 the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) began with 7 states and now includes 20. Like Crosscheck it is designed to comply with NVRA, but it uses 3 or 4 point verification and thus has many fewer false positives. ERIC uses more modern databases with more secure technology and is jointly controlled by its member states.

It's easy to pick on Crosscheck as a political target based on the current KS SoS, but its problems are mainly due to its age and the way it was set up at the start.

Even so, there are clearly political motivations behind the fact that they still use it despite its problems.

Users of either system are not forced to do anything with matches that are found. Some states pass results down to the county authorities and leave it to them pursuant to state law. KS notwithstanding there are real costs associated with going to ERIC. I know there are states that weren't motivated by politics, but primarily cost. Some of those states are now reevaluating the cost due to the forced FOIA data release, again not because of politics.

OK, but there are clearly political motivations behind automatically purging voters based on this program. I mean, come on.

[muon2]

It's important to understand the context of the program. The Interstate Crosscheck Program was created back in 2005 in conformance with the NVRA as a tool between several states (up to 22 joined) to identify people who had moved and registered elsewhere. It only uses a two-point verification and its system databases are showing the age with often outdated information. Because it was started in KS it remains under the operational control of that state.

In 2012 the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) began with 7 states and now includes 20. Like Crosscheck it is designed to comply with NVRA, but it uses 3 or 4 point verification and thus has many fewer false positives. ERIC uses more modern databases with more secure technology and is jointly controlled by its member states.

It's easy to pick on Crosscheck as a political target based on the current KS SoS, but its problems are mainly due to its age and the way it was set up at the start.

Even so, there are clearly political motivations behind the fact that they still use it despite its problems.

Users of either system are not forced to do anything with matches that are found. Some states pass results down to the county authorities and leave it to them pursuant to state law. KS notwithstanding there are real costs associated with going to ERIC. I know there are states that weren't motivated by politics, but primarily cost. Some of those states are now reevaluating the cost due to the forced FOIA data release, again not because of politics.

OK, but there are clearly political motivations behind automatically purging voters based on this program. I mean, come on.

I'm not disputing that the current KS SoS (who wasn't the one who started Crosscheck) has political motivations. I also recognize that some states in the system have laws designed to limit voter participation, and that would include any automatic purge. There would likely be problems from an automatic purge based on ERIC, too. There just would be fewer false positives. However, many states in the system were not using Crosscheck as a sole source for automatic purges. For example, in IL the system was never used as an automatic purge, just as a way to flag voters so that local authorities could confirm their absence from their listed address. I'm saying that one shouldn't paint the program with such a broad brush.

[Figueira]

It's important to understand the context of the program. The Interstate Crosscheck Program was created back in 2005 in conformance with the NVRA as a tool between several states (up to 22 joined) to identify people who had moved and registered elsewhere. It only uses a two-point verification and its system databases are showing the age with often outdated information. Because it was started in KS it remains under the operational control of that state.

In 2012 the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) began with 7 states and now includes 20. Like Crosscheck it is designed to comply with NVRA, but it uses 3 or 4 point verification and thus has many fewer false positives. ERIC uses more modern databases with more secure technology and is jointly controlled by its member states.

It's easy to pick on Crosscheck as a political target based on the current KS SoS, but its problems are mainly due to its age and the way it was set up at the start.

Even so, there are clearly political motivations behind the fact that they still use it despite its problems.

Users of either system are not forced to do anything with matches that are found. Some states pass results down to the county authorities and leave it to them pursuant to state law. KS notwithstanding there are real costs associated with going to ERIC. I know there are states that weren't motivated by politics, but primarily cost. Some of those states are now reevaluating the cost due to the forced FOIA data release, again not because of politics.

OK, but there are clearly political motivations behind automatically purging voters based on this program. I mean, come on.

I'm not disputing that the current KS SoS (who wasn't the one who started Crosscheck) has political motivations. I also recognize that some states in the system have laws designed to limit voter participation, and that would include any automatic purge. There would likely be problems from an automatic purge based on ERIC, too. There just would be fewer false positives. However, many states in the system were not using Crosscheck as a sole source for automatic purges. For example, in IL the system was never used as an automatic purge, just as a way to flag voters so that local authorities could confirm their absence from their listed address. I'm saying that one shouldn't paint the program with such a broad brush.

Yeah, I'm not saying anything about the people who designed the program, just the people who are using it.