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« on: October 10, 2017, 02:04:50 PM »

First of all, I wasn't sure where to put this topic; I hope this board's right.

Are there states that are said to demand less from their students than others?

in Germany, for example, we have three states whose Abitur is only useful as toilet paper, and the inhabitants of the other states make fun of that fact. The Abiture in Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg and Saxony, however, are very difficult to achieve, but when applying for university they are unfortunately as valuable as the exams from the three states that give you the exams for free.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 02:41:57 PM »

Speaking from personal experience only, and from a long time ago (the 1960s): we moved from the suburbs of a large Midwestern city to a large Southern city after I had finished 6th grade.  The 7th grade material in the Southern city was about equivalent to the 5th grade material in the Midwestern one.

It may well be different today.  For one thing, there is much more in the way of national standards and testing now.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 05:04:00 PM »

First of all, I wasn't sure where to put this topic; I hope this board's right.

Are there states that are said to demand less from their students than others?

in Germany, for example, we have three states whose Abitur is only useful as toilet paper, and the inhabitants of the other states make fun of that fact. The Abiture in Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg and Saxony, however, are very difficult to achieve, but when applying for university they are unfortunately as valuable as the exams from the three states that give you the exams for free.

It is commonplace to joke about educational credentials anywhere as if they were toilet paper. It's supposedly not the credential but what is necessary for achieving it that is so precious -- like mastery of the language, certain essential knowledge in math and science, and the ability to dodge intellectual traps. For example:

Which is bigger (all numbers are real) as x

(A) x^2  = 49
(B) x = 6
(C) A and B are equal
(D) there is not enough information to make a definitive answer

Well, we all know that the positive square root of 49 is 7, and 7 is larger than 6, so the answer is (A), of course. Right? Only if you forget that -7 is also a square root of 49.
 
The college boards are good for weeding out scatterbrains who typically fail early in college.

As I understand it takes considerable effort to get an Abitur, so cost is the least of it. Some kids might get expensive coaching to succeed at getting it, as social position and economic opportunity in Germany are much more heavily linked to formal education than is so in the USA.   

 
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 05:09:12 PM »

Kentucky is hands-down the hardest. It wasn't challenging stuff either. It was arcane, worthless stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 05:40:04 PM »

My guess would be that there is more divergence at the university level than at the public school level.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 05:40:14 PM »

Thanks to common core, public schools in all 50 states are supposed to be teaching the same things
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 07:57:36 AM »

Kentucky is hands-down the hardest. It wasn't challenging stuff either. It was arcane, worthless stuff.

They teach marxism in Kentucky schools?
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 11:40:41 AM »

Thanks to common core, public schools in all 50 states are supposed to be teaching the same things

Not all states use that system. Texas is one of 'em.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 03:33:47 PM »

Thanks to common core, public schools in all 50 states are supposed to be teaching the same things
Not all states use it.

And even among those who use it, not all teach the same way, they just need to show they're aligned.
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