Psychologists march through NY to call for Trump's removal

[GeorgiaModerate]

I thought this was a headline from The Onion when I first saw it, but it's real.

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[Fuzzy Bear]

I doubt these folks represent a cross-section of psychologists, let alone Americans.

I also doubt that such an act is in line with the ethical and professional standards of the APA.

[Young Conservative]

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

Ethics do not apply to the most unethical "president" we've ever had.

[ProudModerate2]

I doubt these folks represent a cross-section of psychologists, let alone Americans.
I also doubt that such an act is in line with the ethical and professional standards of the APA.

Most Americans across this nation know the Orange-Haired Clown has some level of mental illness. You are delusional if you think otherwise. So I'm sure psychologists (it's their field of study and practice) are in agreement about this.

Also, it's hypocritical for anyone to talk about others' "ethical and professional standards" when we have a president who conducts himself like an assh**e on a daily basis.

[ProudModerate2]

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

The Twenty-fifth Amendment deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures if the President is unable to discharge the powers of the presidency.
This could involve impairment due to physical or mental, medical issues.

Of course that we need the expertise of people with "medical titles" to ascertain a possible "removal of a political figure."
What do you want .... some janitor to determine a medical issue in such a case ?
Don't be so naïve.

[SWE]

[Most Americans across this nation know the Orange-Haired Clown has some level of mental illness.

There's not an ounce of evidence to suggest that Trump has a mental illness.

Of course that we need the expertise of people with "medical titles" to ascertain a possible "removal of a political figure."
What do you want .... some janitor to determine a medical issue in such a case ?
Don't be so naïve.

A mental health professional cannot make a diagnosis of someone they've never met.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

[ProudModerate2]

Most Americans across this nation know the Orange-Haired Clown has some level of mental illness.

There's not an ounce of evidence to suggest that Trump has a mental illness.

If you have eyes and ears, then there is a ton of evidence he has a mental illness.

[ProudModerate2]

Of course that we need the expertise of people with "medical titles" to ascertain a possible "removal of a political figure."
What do you want .... some janitor to determine a medical issue in such a case ?
Don't be so naïve.

A mental health professional cannot make a diagnosis of someone they've never met.

Not sure they are saying they are making an official "diagnosis."
In any case, a mental illness is much, much easier to ascertain from just observing/listening (over a long period of time), rather than needing to "meet" and examine an individual for a physical illness.

The president is speaking and texting everyday. His words, demeanors, antics (being an assh**e, acting like manchild, a narcissist, etc) are on the news (TV) everyday. He has been for the last 9 months or so (more, if you look back through when he was campaigning) . Surely a psychologist can use ALL this information to have a professional opinion on the matter.

[IceAgeComing]

the equivocation of mental illness to being a bad person is really quite harmful for a few reasons - firstly it has a nasty implication that people with mental illnesses are inherently bad and shouldn't be positions of power which is a bad one (since lots of people have something that you could describe as a "mental illness") plus its always a thing that people tend to use to invalidate people that they don't like (look at the way that some dismiss trans people as "mentally ill" with the implication being that you shouldn't listen to them) which isn't great.

Also it suggests that people seem to think that Trump doesn't really know what he's doing which, well, is wrong - he knows exactly what he's doing, or at least wants to do.  I don't think that its a big shock or a sign of whatever ailments you wish to suggest that he pre-planned his campaign strategy and brought some... dodgy people in to run the dogwhistle-filled campaign that he ran.  The big reason for his frustration about how having dictatorial powers is what you'd expect if you transplanted someone from the chairmanship of a private company where they had almost absolute power and put them in a place where they can't make all of the decisions that they want and are reliant on a large group of people, lots of whom hit him and the rest are ambivalent to him.  I think that's a lot more clear than whatever pseudo-phyciatric diagnosis you spew out...

[Kingpoleon]

Of course that we need the expertise of people with "medical titles" to ascertain a possible "removal of a political figure."
What do you want .... some janitor to determine a medical issue in such a case ?
Don't be so naïve.

A mental health professional cannot make a diagnosis of someone they've never met.

Not sure they are saying they are making an official "diagnosis."
In any case, a mental illness is much, much easier to ascertain from just observing/listening (over a long period of time), rather than needing to "meet" and examine an individual for a physical illness.

The president is speaking and texting everyday. His words, demeanors, antics (being an assh**e, acting like manchild, a narcissist, etc) are on the news (TV) everyday. He has been for the last 9 months or so (more, if you look back through when he was campaigning) . Surely a psychologist can use ALL this information to have a professional opinion on the matter.

I've given your posts to psychologists who now agree you have a mental illness, as yet to be named. Possibilities include, but are not limited to, one of or all of the following: unhealthy obsessions, narcissism, and communication impairment.

[TheSaint250]

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

Ethics do not apply to the most unethical "president" we've ever had.

"Because he doesn't do something right, they shouldn't either!"

[ProudModerate2]

Of course that we need the expertise of people with "medical titles" to ascertain a possible "removal of a political figure."
What do you want .... some janitor to determine a medical issue in such a case ?
Don't be so naïve.

A mental health professional cannot make a diagnosis of someone they've never met.

Not sure they are saying they are making an official "diagnosis."
In any case, a mental illness is much, much easier to ascertain from just observing/listening (over a long period of time), rather than needing to "meet" and examine an individual for a physical illness.

The president is speaking and texting everyday. His words, demeanors, antics (being an assh**e, acting like manchild, a narcissist, etc) are on the news (TV) everyday. He has been for the last 9 months or so (more, if you look back through when he was campaigning) . Surely a psychologist can use ALL this information to have a professional opinion on the matter.

I've given your posts to psychologists who now agree you have a mental illness, as yet to be named. Possibilities include, but are not limited to, one of or all of the following: unhealthy obsessions, narcissism, and communication impairment.

I think it's all 3 of those.

[pbrower2a]

The concept of madness existed before there was an academic study of psychology. Most of us are capable of detecting blatant pathology -- mental impairment through idiocy, lunacy, and senility. Of course it must be blatant. If someone tells you that CIA is using X-rays from the television to pry into his thoughts... you can see a problem.

Much mental illness is harmless. Obviously one must protect the stupid from exploitation and abuse.     We generally do a good job of keeping the mentally ill from achieving positions of great power (Donald Trump is a prime counter-example) and weeding out from such positions people who go insane or senile while in such positions.  

[JA]

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

[Associate Justice PiT]

      Based on APA figures there are over 100,000 psychologists in America, and "other mental health professionals" is pretty vague. Getting "more than 100" to march isn't terribly impressive. Also:

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

[America Needs R'hllor]

      Based on APA figures there are over 100,000 psychologists in America, and "other mental health professionals" is pretty vague. Getting "more than 100" to march isn't terribly impressive. Also:

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

A conservative, a socialist, a moderate Republican and a moderate liberal walk into a bar...

[GeorgiaModerate]

      Based on APA figures there are over 100,000 psychologists in America, and "other mental health professionals" is pretty vague. Getting "more than 100" to march isn't terribly impressive. Also:

Incredibly unethical to use your medical title to call for removal of a political figure.

A conservative, a socialist, a moderate Republican and a moderate liberal walk into a bar...

...is the most likely outcome of a Trump victory.

[JA]

Not only is this incredibly unethical, but it also needlessly and potentially negatively politicizes the field of mental health. That poses a few potentially dangerous problems, such as reducing the trust that the general public has for mental health practitioners and researchers, along with the willingness to seek help when needed. People in need of help could feel alienated from, skeptical of, or even opposed to those capable of providing them with assistance. That's just not right.

A second problem is that authoritarian states have often exploited psychology as a tool to harm their political opposition, whether it's other political figures, civilians, or detainees. They can dismiss their concerns, attack their credibility, or harmfully misuse medical terminology to advance the elite's political interests. The mental health field in America, to help ensure such a situation doesn't arise or receive active collaboration from mental health professionals (such as what happened with the CIA's "enhanced interrogation" program), should ensure a wall of separation exists between them and the politics/government.