So apparently Hobby Lobby is now an Indiana Jones villain?

[Crumpets]

What a weird story all around. Apparently Hobby Lobby is going to be opening a "Museum of the Bible" in Washington, DC. To get some authentic effects to display, Hobby Lobby appears to have bought thousands of artifacts which have been smuggled out of Iraq via the UAE.

Facing legal ramifications, however:

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/hobby-lobby-smuggled-thousands-of-ancient-artifacts-out-of-iraq/532743/

[dead0man]

Like taking land in war, ransacking the locals of their ancient sh**t* went out of style right around the time Europe stopped being the best in the world at it (is that odd timing or what?)  Ya can keep the stuff you stole 70 years ago, but you must give back stuff you steal today.



*not that the locals give a sh**t about these kinds of things until some white dude shows up and starts making a big deal over it

[Antonio the Sixth]

When I read the thread title my first thought was that it was somehow forced to shut down in a bizarre ramification of the SCOTUS ruling that bears its name (ie destroyed by the very power it sought to unleash, like all Indiana Jones villains). Color me disappointed.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

But...why?

[136or142]

Like taking land in war, ransacking the locals of their ancient sh**t* went out of style right around the time Europe stopped being the best in the world at it (is that odd timing or what?)  Ya can keep the stuff you stole 70 years ago, but you must give back stuff you steal today.



*not that the locals give a sh**t about these kinds of things until some white dude shows up and starts making a big deal over it

That's rubbish.  Many 'locals' are very concerned when robbers steal ancient artifacts.

[dead0man]

Of course.  That was a bit of hyperbole.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Like taking land in war, ransacking the locals of their ancient sh**t* went out of style right around the time Europe stopped being the best in the world at it (is that odd timing or what?)  Ya can keep the stuff you stole 70 years ago, but you must give back stuff you steal today.



*not that the locals give a sh**t about these kinds of things until some white dude shows up and starts making a big deal over it

I mean, Greece still wants the Elgin Marbles back, don't they?

[Mr. Reactionary]

They belong in a museum.

[KingSweden]

They belong in a museum.

I was waiting for this response

I mean, technically HL we're going to put them in one, but... yeah

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Jokelahoma 101

[Brittain33]

Hobby Lobby's robby hobby: Hammurabi

(stolen from Twitter)

[136or142]

LOCK HIM UP!

(Not joking, this is a serious crime.  The only way he wouldn't go to jail is if rich people get different justice than everybody else.)

[Zioneer]

There's no way the higher ups didn't know about this. Their whole "thing" is being a Biblical-focused, "Christian" business. They knew they were getting artifacts illegally.

[dead0man]

Like taking land in war, ransacking the locals of their ancient sh**t* went out of style right around the time Europe stopped being the best in the world at it (is that odd timing or what?)  Ya can keep the stuff you stole 70 years ago, but you must give back stuff you steal today.



*not that the locals give a sh**t about these kinds of things until some white dude shows up and starts making a big deal over it

I mean, Greece still wants the Elgin Marbles back, don't they?

lots of people want lots of their things back that are in the British Museum.  But again, if you're European and stole something 100 hundred years ago it's fine.  Forever.

[Thomas Jackson]

What a weird story all around. Apparently Hobby Lobby is going to be opening a "Museum of the Bible" in Washington, DC. To get some authentic effects to display, Hobby Lobby appears to have bought thousands of artifacts which have been smuggled out of Iraq via the UAE.

Facing legal ramifications, however:

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/hobby-lobby-smuggled-thousands-of-ancient-artifacts-out-of-iraq/532743/

Fake news.

Hobby Lobby and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York today announced that they have entered into a settlement agreement concluding an investigation into the importation of certain artifacts.

“We should have exercised more oversight and carefully questioned how the acquisitions were handled,” said Hobby Lobby President, Steve Green. “Hobby Lobby has cooperated with the government throughout its investigation, and with the announcement of today’s settlement agreement, is pleased the matter has been resolved.”

In 2009, Hobby Lobby began acquiring a variety of historical Bibles and other artifacts.  Developing a collection of historically and religiously important books and artifacts about the Bible is consistent with the Company’s mission and passion for the Bible.  The goals were to preserve these items for future generations, to provide broad access to scholars and students alike to study them, and to share the collection with the world in public institutions and museums.

The Company was new to the world of acquiring these items, and did not fully appreciate the complexities of the acquisitions process.  This resulted in some regrettable mistakes.  The Company imprudently relied on dealers and shippers who, in hindsight, did not understand the correct way to document and ship these items. However, since learning of these errors, the Company has been an active participant with the government’s investigation and supports its efforts to protect the world’s ancient heritage.  At no time did Hobby Lobby ever purchase items from dealers in Iraq or from anyone who indicated that they acquired items from that country.  Hobby Lobby condemns such conduct and has always acted with the intent to protect ancient items of cultural and historical importance.  Hobby Lobby has implemented acquisition policies and procedures based on the industry’s highest standards established by the Association of Art Museum Directors (“AAMD”).  The AAMD policies have been vetted by global museum directors and lawmakers alike, and represent the gold standard for protecting ancient heritage artifacts.

“We have accepted responsibility and learned a great deal,” said Green. “Our entire team is committed to the highest standards for investigating and acquiring these items. Our passion for the Bible continues, and we will do all that we can to support the efforts to conserve items that will help illuminate and enhance our understanding of this Great Book.”

[KingSweden]

What a weird story all around. Apparently Hobby Lobby is going to be opening a "Museum of the Bible" in Washington, DC. To get some authentic effects to display, Hobby Lobby appears to have bought thousands of artifacts which have been smuggled out of Iraq via the UAE.

Facing legal ramifications, however:

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/hobby-lobby-smuggled-thousands-of-ancient-artifacts-out-of-iraq/532743/

Fake news.

Hobby Lobby and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York today announced that they have entered into a settlement agreement concluding an investigation into the importation of certain artifacts.

“We should have exercised more oversight and carefully questioned how the acquisitions were handled,” said Hobby Lobby President, Steve Green. “Hobby Lobby has cooperated with the government throughout its investigation, and with the announcement of today’s settlement agreement, is pleased the matter has been resolved.”

In 2009, Hobby Lobby began acquiring a variety of historical Bibles and other artifacts.  Developing a collection of historically and religiously important books and artifacts about the Bible is consistent with the Company’s mission and passion for the Bible.  The goals were to preserve these items for future generations, to provide broad access to scholars and students alike to study them, and to share the collection with the world in public institutions and museums.

The Company was new to the world of acquiring these items, and did not fully appreciate the complexities of the acquisitions process.  This resulted in some regrettable mistakes.  The Company imprudently relied on dealers and shippers who, in hindsight, did not understand the correct way to document and ship these items. However, since learning of these errors, the Company has been an active participant with the government’s investigation and supports its efforts to protect the world’s ancient heritage.  At no time did Hobby Lobby ever purchase items from dealers in Iraq or from anyone who indicated that they acquired items from that country.  Hobby Lobby condemns such conduct and has always acted with the intent to protect ancient items of cultural and historical importance.  Hobby Lobby has implemented acquisition policies and procedures based on the industry’s highest standards established by the Association of Art Museum Directors (“AAMD”).  The AAMD policies have been vetted by global museum directors and lawmakers alike, and represent the gold standard for protecting ancient heritage artifacts.

“We have accepted responsibility and learned a great deal,” said Green. “Our entire team is committed to the highest standards for investigating and acquiring these items. Our passion for the Bible continues, and we will do all that we can to support the efforts to conserve items that will help illuminate and enhance our understanding of this Great Book.”

JFC they settled because they got caught, which is not fake news. Did you even read the article?

Hobby Lobby's robby hobby: Hammurabi

(stolen from Twitter)

Bahahhahaha

[Thomas Jackson]

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Logical fallacy.

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Logical fallacy.

[136or142]

This settlement sounds exactly like what I wrote about above: one law for the wealthy and the well connected and another law for everybody else.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This settlement sounds exactly like what I wrote about above: one law for the wealthy and the well connected and another law for everybody else.

That's been that case in America for my whole lifetime, and most if not all of our history. It's just more obvious these days.

[publicunofficial]

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Logical fallacy.

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Logical fallacy.

Ahahahahaha

*Total nerd voice* N-not an argument!

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

So, what happens to the artifacts?  The government seizes them and stores them in a giant warehouse somewhere?

[Antonio the Sixth]

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Logical fallacy.

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Logical fallacy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy