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« on: June 15, 2017, 06:15:28 AM »

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/654145?unlock=8MTFUCN3IQGYRAYX

After reading this article, who do you think will make African-American voter turnout high like Obama.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 08:23:20 AM »

Perhaps unified opposition to whoever the GOP nominee is in 2020. Way back in 1984, Black turnout jumped sharply over 1980 levels. A similar thing happened in 2000. Not that Black turnout in 2016 was anything to sneeze at: wasn't it the third highest ever, after 2008 and 2012?

Adjusted for age and education, I believe Black turnout, at least in Presidential elections, is slightly higher than white turnout, and has been at least since 2000.

It will be interesting to see if the Democrats in 2020 can nominate a candidate who both (1) restores Black turnout to near-Obama levels and (2) wins back a lot of progressives who voted for Johnson or Stein in 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 09:38:59 AM »

I am hoping that we see more people paying attention to the message of economic freedom rather than of dependence on the state and make strides toward self-sufficiency for their communities. This is so critical as the status quo is not working - blacks born in single parent families is up to well over 60% now. Social engineering.

If Larry Sharpe from NY runs for the LP - they could get more black voters and he definitely would not have a 'what is a leppo' moment like Gary Johnson did.

In the meantime, Thomas Sowell's books are a great read for blacks looking for economic education and looking deeper at issues affecting them directly.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 11:21:05 AM »

Kamela Harris or Cory Booker
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 11:40:44 AM »

Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, or maybe Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 11:43:23 AM »

However, Cornel West, Tavis Smiley, or Marc Lamont Hill could do well with black voters if they run as Green Party candidates. Especially, among young African-American voters.

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 11:48:01 AM »

I am hoping that we see more people paying attention to the message of economic freedom rather than of dependence on the state and make strides toward self-sufficiency for their communities. This is so critical as the status quo is not working - blacks born in single parent families is up to well over 60% now. Social engineering.

If Larry Sharpe from NY runs for the LP - they could get more black voters and he definitely would not have a 'what is a leppo' moment like Gary Johnson did.

In the meantime, Thomas Sowell's books are a great read for blacks looking for economic education and looking deeper at issues affecting them directly.
On the flip side, I would like to see more non-Black voters consider the historically (extraordinarily) difficult time Black Americans have faced in the past, and to some extent still do, as they decide for whom to vote. And, yes, I would like to see more Black voters consider the message of self-sufficiency provided by the LP and others.

That is, I'd like to see the country more understanding and less divided by race (and other factors).

As Black voters start to embrace the ideas of self-sufficiency, I can foresee some in the Democratic Party, and on the left generally, reacting with alarm and fear, digging in their heels and pulling out all the stops in trying to portray any attempt to "liberate" Black people from government largesse as tantamount to cutting benefits for Black people, throwing them out into the streets (in greater numbers than they are already) and, of course, racist.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 11:48:48 AM »

Republicans like Kraushaar will love "racial" polarization. They want the parties to become based on ethnic identity, where they can see a path to an advantage. If it ever comes a contest of ideas (economic populism versus neoliberalism) they are screwed.

The idea that blacks are totally unreceptive to someone like Sanders is a myth, just as it was a myth that they would be unreceptive to Hillary.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 08:26:33 PM »

I am hoping that we see more people paying attention to the message of economic freedom rather than of dependence on the state and make strides toward self-sufficiency for their communities. This is so critical as the status quo is not working - blacks born in single parent families is up to well over 60% now. Social engineering.

If Larry Sharpe from NY runs for the LP - they could get more black voters and he definitely would not have a 'what is a leppo' moment like Gary Johnson did.

In the meantime, Thomas Sowell's books are a great read for blacks looking for economic education and looking deeper at issues affecting them directly.
On the flip side, I would like to see more non-Black voters consider the historically (extraordinarily) difficult time Black Americans have faced in the past, and to some extent still do, as they decide for whom to vote. And, yes, I would like to see more Black voters consider the message of self-sufficiency provided by the LP and others.

That is, I'd like to see the country more understanding and less divided by race (and other factors).

As Black voters start to embrace the ideas of self-sufficiency, I can foresee some in the Democratic Party, and on the left generally, reacting with alarm and fear, digging in their heels and pulling out all the stops in trying to portray any attempt to "liberate" Black people from government largesse as tantamount to cutting benefits for Black people, throwing them out into the streets (in greater numbers than they are already) and, of course, racist.

I believe the individual is the smallest minority. I can understand others rights to live as they see fit and not vote in paternalistic manner but accept that each person will choose to vote based on her or his own values & self interest. To say one is voting for the sake of others and that there is no self interest is a lost cause.

I hope one day that a) the state's relative power recedes and this allows people to avoid being called "Uncle Tom's", "oreos", or worse for not voting with the pack. Sadly it still goes on.
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