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« on: September 30, 2017, 11:51:52 PM »

Hey y'all! So I run a YouTube channel called Let's Talk Elections, and I'm in dire need of suggestions of Democrats vs President Trump. I've done many of them so far ranging from Warren to Sanders back to Clinton even up to Jim Webb, Steve Bullock, and Martin O'Malley. However I don't need just Trump vs Dem predictions, possbile ones that would never happen but would be interesting like my Jill Stein vs Joe Biden video. If you all have any suggestions please comment below! It will help me greatly!

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 09:49:09 AM »

What if Clinton had won the 2016 election and she was against some republican candidates?
What if Romney had won both 2012 and 2016 elections and now Paul Ryan was up against other candidates in 2020 (Clinton lost narrowly in '16)
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 10:30:56 AM »

Kamala Harris would be good to dig into, especially as California may be pushing her now.

I always found it lulz to think if Carter or Bush Sr. ran for President again in 2008/12/16 (as they were 1 term).
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2017, 10:42:55 AM »

Scott Bakula vs. Mike Pence
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 11:39:34 AM »

Jerry Brown VS George W Bush (2004)
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 01:16:08 PM »

Kamala Harris would be good to dig into, especially as California may be pushing her now.

I always found it lulz to think if Carter or Bush Sr. ran for President again in 2008/12/16 (as they were 1 term).

Did that one B. She'll probably be the nominee tbh.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 02:21:03 PM »

Jimmy Carter 2020 but in a world where aging is no longer an issue
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 02:26:26 PM »

Kasich vs Biden or Kasich vs Sanders
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 05:00:49 PM »

Kamala Harris would be good to dig into, especially as California may be pushing her now.

I always found it lulz to think if Carter or Bush Sr. ran for President again in 2008/12/16 (as they were 1 term).

Did that one B. She'll probably be the nominee tbh.
I doubt it she definitely has a good chance but their are definitely other candidates that could demolish her in the primary  (Biden, Sanders, Warren)
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 11:34:58 PM »

jed bartlet for america? underwood 2016? or if you want actual people go back in time to alt history. McCain vs Gore in 2000? Clinton vs. McCain 08? George Pataki vs. Bernie Sanders 2016? Ron Paul vs Obama 2012? You can keep naming em. I dunno if you really want to do alt history but I've seen your videos and I like em for the most part.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 12:17:14 AM »

If we are doing werid time breaking ideas how about: 2020: Trump vs a young Jerry Brown (circa 1992) so a former California governor in his mid 50's doing a populist "we the people" shtick he did that year
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 06:26:21 PM »

Kamala Harris would be good to dig into, especially as California may be pushing her now.

I always found it lulz to think if Carter or Bush Sr. ran for President again in 2008/12/16 (as they were 1 term).

Did that one B. She'll probably be the nominee tbh.
I doubt it she definitely has a good chance but their are definitely other candidates that could demolish her in the primary  (Biden, Sanders, Warren)

The CA primary being the 5th primary of the Dem Primary in 2020 definitely could boost her.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 04:13:06 PM »

Just thought of an interesting one: 'What if Trump ran in 1988?' And another for '92, and '96, and so on. What if he had ran then, as a Republican or Democrat depending on what makes more sense at the time. Would he have become the nominee in any other election? How would he have fared in the primaries in those years - assuming the same set of other candidates are running too. Could he have won it in any year other than 2016?
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2017, 04:25:40 PM »

Maybe instead of doing an Election Night in the CSA, do one in the Union instead?
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2017, 07:20:47 PM »
« Edited: October 04, 2017, 07:25:37 PM by Da2017 »

Bill Gates vs Donald Trump. Two business outsiders would be interesting match up. Being an outsider would be a plus to Gates like it was for Trump.  I do not think he fare well. He comes across as a nerd. Don't get me wrong, he is a bright person.Plus he is from a safe blue state.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 06:15:36 PM »

Do older ones too:



Like these for example:

Ronald Reagan vs Jimmy Carter 1976
Jack Kemp vs Michael Dukakis 1988
John McCain vs Al Gore 2000
Dick Gephardt vs George W Bush 2004
Obama vs Chris Christe 2012
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2017, 01:23:25 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2017, 01:42:50 PM »

I'd like to see a Donald Trump vs Susan Collins republican primary. I know it isn't realistic but as a viewer of your videos I know that they don't have to be.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2017, 01:51:28 PM »

I'd like to see a Donald Trump vs Susan Collins republican primary. I know it isn't realistic but as a viewer of your videos I know that they don't have to be.

She'd get two votes: herself and RINO Tom

She would at least win Maine
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2017, 03:46:00 PM »
« Edited: October 13, 2017, 04:13:27 PM by pbrower2a »

Blank map, 2020:



Bare Trump win (ignore shades):



The sap (D) 252
The Devil (R) 286

Bare Democratic win:



The Democrat (D) 279
Donald Trump (R) 259

(Pennsylvania is the tipping-point state in the above two)

Analogue 1976 -- Carter beats Ford, 297-241



The Democrat (D) 297
Donald Trump (R) 241

In the last 100 years, there has been no Presidential election involving the incumbent that the incumbent lost other than just barely (Ford to Carter 1976) or by a huge margin (Hoover 1932, Carter 1980, or at least the elder Bush in 1992). For an analogue to the loss of the elder Bush, take a map of Obama in 2008  (probably replacing Indiana with Georgia or Arizona)  or 2012 (331-207 -- add Texas, maybe?) to get the shape of the Democratic win. You really do not need that map.   

I do not see Donald Trump winning a landslide except in a rigged election. Too many things are going wrong, and he seems unlikely to pull off any popular miracle. So let us suppose that he leaves America in an apparent shamble (as Truman was perceived in 1952) and the Republicans have come up with their equivalent of Adlai Stevenson. The Democrats nominate the most Eisenhower-like nominee they can find who is eligible for the Presidency. That's an Obama clone at the least for temperament and morals. Ike won 442-89 in 1952:



The Democrat (D) 447
Donald Republican (R) 91

In such an election the Democrat does in 2020 what Eisenhower did in 1952, Ike winning states that  Republicans just did not win between 1932 and 1948 and subsequently won in most subsequent elections for a long time (Arizona, Utah, and Virginia) or that would be among the most difficult states for Republicans after 1956 (Massachusetts, Minnesota, Rhode Island a total of five times for that tough trio since Ike -- and Ike won those twice).

Out of a lack of imagination I will spare you an image of a loss similar to those of Hoover in 1932 or Carter in 1980.    




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