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Hindsight was 2020
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« on: April 16, 2017, 09:09:10 PM »

Louise Mensch who was the first to report the FBI has FISA warrants on Manafort an Page is saying now that the reason for that is:
 
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An now it is being claimed that BND (German Intelligence) handed over electronic intercepts confirming this. https://patribotics.blog/2017/04/16/carter-page-went-to-moscow-with-a-tape-of-donald-trump-offering-treason-for-hacking/?preview_id=1610&preview_nonce=2aa15d6199, https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/853772665395585024
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 09:25:46 PM »

Rumor: Greys hacked the election to upset the entrenched Reptillian dynasty.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 09:26:36 PM »

lol Louise Mensch.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2017, 09:38:47 PM »

Let's hear everyone out on this...
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2017, 09:46:43 PM »

Rumor: Greys hacked the election to upset the entrenched Reptillian dynasty.
Hey I pointed out she told everyone back on November 7th that the FBI had warrants on Page and Manafort
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2017, 09:49:51 PM »

You do realize Louise Mensch is a well known conspiracy theorist, right? She has been called out by even places like WAPO and NYT for her craziness.

She has claimed

1) The girl who was sexted by anthony weiner is a russia operative

2) Andrew Breitbart was killed by Putin to install bannon

It's embarrassing that you are citing her.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 10:35:45 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2017, 11:10:34 PM by ApatheticAustrian »

i like a happy anti-putin warrior any day of the week but besides getting the FISA story straight, this setting sounds MUUUCH too dangerous and direct for anything trump would or - even more importantly -  should too. big risk, little possibilities for gain...
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2017, 10:39:12 PM »

i like a happy anti-putin warrior any day of the week but besides getting the FISA story straight, this setting sounds MUUUCH too dangerous and direct for anything trump would or - even more important. should too. big risk, little possibilities for gain...
Trust me Trump is that stupid
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2017, 10:57:45 PM »

i like a happy anti-putin warrior any day of the week but besides getting the FISA story straight, this setting sounds MUUUCH too dangerous and direct for anything trump would or - even more important. should too. big risk, little possibilities for gain...
Trust me Trump is that stupid

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-mortgage-economy-2006-2008-crash-a6904796.html
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2017, 11:13:12 PM »

Dear God, please tell me all of that is fake.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2017, 11:19:50 PM »

Dear God, please tell me all of that is fake.

Consider the source. Louise Mensch is a loon, and that's not just conservatives saying it. She has been rebuked by NYT, slate, dailykos, etc.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2017, 11:46:50 PM »

I truly believe Trump is dumb and arrogant enough to do something like this, but totally not something I would actually believe without credible proof. This isn't credible.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2017, 09:09:35 AM »

I don't think Trump would do anything this directly with Carter Page with the Russian government. Carter Page was a low level flunky and anything of this magnitude would've probably been communicated with Manafort. Remember Manafort was paid by a Putin subsidiary in Ukraine and has direct lines to the Kremlin (and a stronger relationship) with Russia. There's also a couple of other Trump world people who have stronger connections to Russia than Carter Page.

Do I believe there is an informal agreement with Russia that was communicated behind backchannels? Probably. Trump refuses to criticize Putin, watered down the Ukrainian section of the GOP platform, and Russia supplied Wikileaks with the information about Clinton's campaign. I do believe there was/is an informal deal behind the scenes.

Trump was backed by Putinbots dating to the GOP primaries, as well, against Rubio. He had a noticeably harder line on Russia in 2014 but again, we need the tax returns to detail his extensive foreign operations around the world. The 2008-2016 tax returns most likely tell us a great deal about Russia and Trump's connections.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2017, 09:25:48 AM »

We all know how much credence I give to the Trump-Russia thing (a lot) and even I think Mensxh is wacky. Take her reporting with a massive grain of salt until otherwise corroborated.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2017, 09:31:46 AM »

The funny part is that Louise Mensch used to be a Tory (conservative) MP in the UK before she became an anti-Trump conspiracy theorist considered wacky by dailykos and slate. Like wtf.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2017, 09:47:51 AM »

Why do they let Carter Page on TV anyway.  The guy never says sh**t, and he's not some big shot like he thinks he is.  Ugh.  Let the Russians keep him.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 09:50:16 AM »

I don't think Trump would do anything this directly with Carter Page with the Russian government. Carter Page was a low level flunky and anything of this magnitude would've probably been communicated with Manafort. Remember Manafort was paid by a Putin subsidiary in Ukraine and has direct lines to the Kremlin (and a stronger relationship) with Russia. There's also a couple of other Trump world people who have stronger connections to Russia than Carter Page.

Do I believe there is an informal agreement with Russia that was communicated behind backchannels? Probably. Trump refuses to criticize Putin, watered down the Ukrainian section of the GOP platform, and Russia supplied Wikileaks with the information about Clinton's campaign. I do believe there was/is an informal deal behind the scenes.

Trump was backed by Putinbots dating to the GOP primaries, as well, against Rubio. He had a noticeably harder line on Russia in 2014 but again, we need the tax returns to detail his extensive foreign operations around the world. The 2008-2016 tax returns most likely tell us a great deal about Russia and Trump's connections.


In fact we saw that in the period of Dec 2015-Jan 2016 here on the Atlas Forum. Timelines of Russian involvement in the 2016 election need to go back well before summer 2016 when Trump was the nominee/nominee elect.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 09:50:19 AM »

Where's the tape? We want the tape, and we want it now.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 09:55:18 AM »

I don't think Trump would do anything this directly with Carter Page with the Russian government. Carter Page was a low level flunky and anything of this magnitude would've probably been communicated with Manafort. Remember Manafort was paid by a Putin subsidiary in Ukraine and has direct lines to the Kremlin (and a stronger relationship) with Russia. There's also a couple of other Trump world people who have stronger connections to Russia than Carter Page.

Do I believe there is an informal agreement with Russia that was communicated behind backchannels? Probably. Trump refuses to criticize Putin, watered down the Ukrainian section of the GOP platform, and Russia supplied Wikileaks with the information about Clinton's campaign. I do believe there was/is an informal deal behind the scenes.

Trump was backed by Putinbots dating to the GOP primaries, as well, against Rubio. He had a noticeably harder line on Russia in 2014 but again, we need the tax returns to detail his extensive foreign operations around the world. The 2008-2016 tax returns most likely tell us a great deal about Russia and Trump's connections.


In fact we saw that in the period of Dec 2015-Jan 2016 here on the Atlas Forum. Timelines of Russian involvement in the 2016 election need to go back well before summer 2016 when Trump was the nominee/nominee elect.

Some timelines go as far back as 2011 and when birtherism took back, FWIW
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2017, 10:26:10 AM »

The funny part is that Louise Mensch used to be a Tory (conservative) MP in the UK before she became an anti-Trump conspiracy theorist considered wacky by dailykos and slate. Like wtf.

she is still conservative and adores brexit.

she is just kind of crazy regarding her russia theories and i say that as someone who thinks most bad things said about putin are absolutely true.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 11:04:42 AM »

since a majority of republicans believe for example trump's wiretapping claims, this study seems a little bit....outlandish, imho.
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