Which R Senators are undecided about voting for DeVos?
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2017, 09:41:34 PM »

Ergo, she doesn't owe her career to them.
She would not be in the Senate today without Democrats. I don't know how more unequivocally she could owe her career to Democrats.

Because that implies she'd never be in the Senate without Democrats in the first place and that's clearly not the case.
No, that means that in 2004, she did not owe her career to Democrats. In 2017, she does.

She'd have won in 2016 without the Democrats.  2010 is debatable, but the Republicans basically threw her under the bus there first.

She wouldn't be up for reelection in 2016 in the first place if the Democrats hadn't saved her in 2010.

And 2010 is definitely not debatable; she certainly would have lost to Joe Miller had pragmatic Democrats not stepped in to save her.
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2017, 09:44:49 PM »

The only deserving Senator is John McCain.
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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2017, 09:45:59 PM »

DeVos is the worst of Trump's picks in the end, if there can at least be one defeat it has to be her.
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2017, 09:48:54 PM »

Someone forgot to mention that Collins and Murkowski are bigly on the teachers union dole!
Well Collins is from a Dem State but I don't think the teacher unions in Maine have anywhere near the influence that they do NJ and even NY State.

Also WTF: Murkowski is on the DeVos Charter School dole, and that's why is shocking that there was enough pressure for her to flip against her!
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2017, 09:51:01 PM »

DeVos is the worst of Trump's picks in the end, if there can at least be one defeat it has to be her.

You might be right that she's the most jarringly unqualified and brazenly griftlike, but I'd DEFO take DeVos if somebody at a department that mattered, like Tillerson or, ESPECIALLY, Mnuchin, was replaced with a less horrifying alternative.
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2017, 09:56:52 PM »

DeVos is the worst of Trump's picks in the end, if there can at least be one defeat it has to be her.

You might be right that she's the most jarringly unqualified and brazenly griftlike, but I'd DEFO take DeVos if somebody at a department that mattered, like Tillerson or, ESPECIALLY, Mnuchin, was replaced with a less horrifying alternative.

Sadly they'll likely be confirmed, so you have the pick the battle that can be won, which is this one. Take out DeVos and then work against everything Trump tries.
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2017, 10:14:52 PM »

DeVos is the worst of Trump's picks in the end, if there can at least be one defeat it has to be her.

You might be right that she's the most jarringly unqualified and brazenly griftlike, but I'd DEFO take DeVos if somebody at a department that mattered, like Tillerson or, ESPECIALLY, Mnuchin, was replaced with a less horrifying alternative.

Sadly they'll likely be confirmed, so you have the pick the battle that can be won, which is this one. Take out DeVos and then work against everything Trump tries.

Yep. Especially since this is one that the public is actually interested in (and upset about). Some of the others are just not making news, so the general public is oblivious to those appointees. Use the public support when you have it!
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2017, 11:33:31 PM »

I suspect that the only reason Collins and Murkowski are voting against her is because they knew they would be the only two NO Republican votes, and DeVos will be confirmed.
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2017, 12:01:15 AM »

I suspect that the only reason Collins and Murkowski are voting against her is because they knew they would be the only two NO Republican votes, and DeVos will be confirmed.

Yep, it's just grandstanding.
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