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« on: January 20, 2017, 12:10:09 AM »

It's a plausible scenario that then 74 year old Donald Trump bows out of the race in 2020, and as is the way of businessmen, hands the "business" off to one of his kids.  Ivanka is clearly being groomed for the presidency and she'd easily win the Republican nomination. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 12:18:56 AM »

It's a plausible scenario that then 74 year old Donald Trump bows out of the race in 2020, and as is the way of businessmen, hands the "business" off to one of his kids.  Ivanka is clearly being groomed for the presidency and she'd easily win the Republican nomination. 

There's one problem. Well more than one.

1) Pence would denitely run if Donald didn't. It'd result in a bruising primary which would end in the eventual nominee coming out much worse for wear and making them an easier target.

2)The Trumpist wing would be divided between them.

3) It'd be easy for a challenger to paint Donald as trying to create a political dynasty, something that doesn't play as well these days.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 10:37:17 AM »

ugh
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 01:52:01 PM »

It depends on the results of Trump's rule and Ivanka's role in his administration. If Trump succeeds in realizing his promises to make America first and enjoys wide popular support and his daughter actively participates in it, why not?   
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 02:04:39 PM »

FULLY aware I might be proven wrong, but I am oh-so-skeptical that a "Trumpist Wing" exists in a similar fashion as the business wing, the SoCon wing, the arch conservatives, etc., in that they do not represent a set of views so much as (in 2016) a collection of various factions that were simply angry with the Obama years, a GOP Congress that "didn't keep its promiseS" and what seemed to be a "Boys' Club" in DC, where there was no REAL disagreement.  These voters, according to GOP exit polls, constituted SEVERAL different types of Republicans who might not have banded together in a generic primary cycle.  An anecdotal example is my dad (a CFO who prioritizes fiscal issues) and my grandma (a lifelong Democrat until Obama) supporting Trump for literally opposite reasons, but both wanted to stick it to politicians they thought had not rewarded their electorates (in my dad's case, he was mad about Congressional Republicans caving to Congressional Democrats on budgetary measures ... in my grandma's, she was sick of both parties seeming to be elitist corporate puppets).  I HIGHLY doubt that a similar energy can capture enough of the primary electorate in 2020 or 2024.  Again, I might be wrong, but I don't think there is this ideologically coherent wing of the GOP (at least to the point where they will demand a candidate with views X, Y and Z or bust, as the other wings do) with Trump's "views."
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 09:23:28 PM »

She wouldn't run.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 10:50:55 AM »

Is she really going to occupy First Lady's office in White House? If she is,  it demonstrates her political ambitions.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 11:34:39 AM »

Not plausible. First off, if Trump does well, he'd be unlikely not to run again and if he does badly Ivanka couldn't rely on his old supporters to win. Even if Trump did decide not to run after a successful term, Pence would be his logical successor. If it was Pence vs Ivanka, Pence would win. Ivanka is way more liberal than most republicans (I suspect she supports abortion, which is unfortunately a litmus test for many republicans). Pence can unite the establishment/chamber of commerce wing of the party with the evangelicals. That's party of why Trump picked him. He's the ultimate generic republican.

The only realistic scenario for another Trump to win the presidency is if Donald Trump is a successful two-term president and Donald Trump Jr. (whose speech at the convention was probably the best, imo) runs on a platform of continuing his father's work. Even then, I think that's unlikely simply because Trump's own base dislikes political dynasties.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 11:46:28 AM »
« Edited: January 22, 2017, 02:07:26 PM by Rutter »

Not plausible. First off, if Trump does well, he'd be unlikely not to run again and if he does badly Ivanka couldn't rely on his old supporters to win. Even if Trump did decide not to run after a successful term, Pence would be his logical successor. If it was Pence vs Ivanka, Pence would win. Ivanka is way more liberal than most republicans (I suspect she supports abortion, which is unfortunately a litmus test for many republicans). Pence can unite the establishment/chamber of commerce wing of the party with the evangelicals. That's party of why Trump picked him. He's the ultimate generic republican.

The only realistic scenario for another Trump to win the presidency is if Donald Trump is a successful two-term president and Donald Trump Jr. (whose speech at the convention was probably the best, imo) runs on a platform of continuing his father's work. Even then, I think that's unlikely simply because Trump's own base dislikes political dynasties.

Nice and convincing analysis, but lots of ifs. And if Pence doesn't have any presidential ambitions? And if Trump does well but won't be able to run due to bad health?
The most important argument is that your country has had no  woman president in contrast to other western nations. That would be Ivanka's natural advantage. Though I personally dislike her first name. Though she looks nice.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2017, 01:51:18 PM »
« Edited: January 22, 2017, 01:57:40 PM by Frodo »

As if it wasn't bad enough to see the nomination of the Republican Party (and presidency) won by a populist demagogue, now you're suggesting it might become the American version of France's National Front in which the leadership of the party is handed down in a distinct line of succession from family member to family member like an unofficial monarchy?  

Sad!  

Although this would be a very liberal monarchy, since Salic law apparently doesn't apply.  
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2017, 02:21:02 PM »

As if it wasn't bad enough to see the nomination of the Republican Party (and presidency) won by a populist demagogue, now you're suggesting it might become the American version of France's National Front in which the leadership of the party is handed down in a distinct line of succession from family member to family member like an unofficial monarchy?  

Sad!  

Didn't G. W. Bush inherit presidency in a distinct line of succession? In what way is Ivanka worse than him?
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2017, 03:03:01 PM »

Donald Jr. is being prepared for the Presidency, not Ivanka. Ivanka will probably end up in total control of the Trump Organization by the late 2020s as Mayor/Governor Donald Trump Jr. enters the the national spotlight.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 03:08:40 PM »

Donald Jr. is being prepared for the Presidency, not Ivanka. Ivanka will probably end up in total control of the Trump Organization by the late 2020s as Mayor/Governor Donald Trump Jr. enters the the national spotlight.

Yuck. Who would vote for that? Better hope he gets a terrible opponent.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2017, 05:06:28 PM »

Donald Jr. is being prepared for the Presidency, not Ivanka. Ivanka will probably end up in total control of the Trump Organization by the late 2020s as Mayor/Governor Donald Trump Jr. enters the the national spotlight.
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Yuck. Who would vote for that? Better hope he gets a terrible opponent.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2017, 11:34:24 PM »

Donald Jr. is being prepared for the Presidency, not Ivanka. Ivanka will probably end up in total control of the Trump Organization by the late 2020s as Mayor/Governor Donald Trump Jr. enters the the national spotlight.
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Yuck. Who would vote for that? Better hope he gets a terrible opponent.

Donald is unlikely to participate in politics as his father announced his intention to transfer his business to him and Eric.   
Ivanka on the contrary is closing her business, which is a manifestation of her political ambitions.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2017, 11:47:59 PM »
« Edited: January 22, 2017, 11:56:28 PM by Rutter »

Donald Jr. is being prepared for the Presidency, not Ivanka. Ivanka will probably end up in total control of the Trump Organization by the late 2020s as Mayor/Governor Donald Trump Jr. enters the the national spotlight.

My gut tells me that Jr. will pull a (Hillary) Clinton and move to Mississippi or something to run for Senate. Perhaps he replaces Old Man Cochran come 2020.
That's a more plausible conjecture.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2017, 05:53:46 AM »

Regarding the talk of Donald, Jr running for office.... he would be a horrible candidate ... Zero charisma.  Jared is the only one that seems like a plausible candidate (and he is probably too shy for that)
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