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« on: January 14, 2017, 11:26:57 AM »
« edited: January 14, 2017, 07:25:00 PM by SCNCmod »

EDIT: I added 2000

States closer than 4% in past 5 elections.  (Blue- Dems won ... Red- Repubs won)

Any general thoughts on what this indicates for 2020?  
Or which Dem Nominee may be the strongest?

Bush/Gore
1. Florida, 0.0092%
2. New Mexico, 0.061%
3. Wisconsin, 0.22%
4. Iowa, 0.31%
5. Oregon, 0.44%

6. New Hampshire, 1.27%
7. Maine's 2nd Congressional District, 1.87%

8. Minnesota, 2.40%

9. Missouri, 3.34%
10. Ohio, 3.51%
11. Nevada, 3.55%
12. Tennessee, 3.86%



Bush/Kerry
1. Wisconsin 0.38%
2. Iowa 0.67%
3. New Mexico 0.79%

4. New Hampshire 1.37%

5. Ohio 2.11%
6. Pennsylvania 2.50%
7. Nevada 2.59%
8. Michigan 3.42%
9. Minnesota 3.48%


Obama/ McCain
1. Missouri 0.13%
2. North Carolina 0.33%
3. Indiana 1.03%
4. Nebraska's 2nd  1.21%


5. Montana 2.26%
6. Florida 2.82%

Obama/ Romney
1. Florida, 0.88%

2. North Carolina, 2.04%
3. Ohio, 2.98%
4. Virginia, 3.87%


Trump/ Clinton
1.  Michigan, 0.22%
2.  New Hampshire, 0.37%
3.  Pennsylvania, 0.72%
4.  Wisconsin, 0.76%
5.  Florida, 1.20%

6.  Minnesota, 1.52%

7.  Nebraska 2nd Dist, 2.24%
8.  Nevada, 2.42%
9.  Maine, 2.96%

10. Arizona, 3.55%
11. North Carolina 3.66%





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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 11:40:43 AM »

FL and NC were the only states won within 4% in 2008, 2012, and 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2017, 11:46:42 AM »
« Edited: January 14, 2017, 12:33:24 PM by SCNCmod »

Wisc/Mich/Penn were all on the list for Bush/Kerry & Trump/Clinton ... but neither of the Obama wins (when he had strong turnout in Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee).

I remember watching election returns this year... and even though Trump had early leads in Wisc/Mich/Penn ... the Commentators said the Clinton Campaign was saying that Clinton would make up the difference when the votes from Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee come in.

So turnout in these 3 cities ... or a small marginal difference in the rural areas of these states ... will be important in 2020.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 11:54:03 AM »

FL and NC were the only states won within 4% in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

And both went slightly more Republican each time:

FL: ( 2.82 Dem) .. ( .88 Dem) ... ( 1.20 Rep)

NC: *( .33 Dem) .. ( 2.04 Rep) ... ( 3.66 Rep)

*2008 is the only time Dems have won NC in the past 45 Years
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 12:04:45 PM »

The sheer number of close states in 2016 in contrast to 2012 is really interesting
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 05:05:10 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2017, 06:44:05 PM by DPKdebator »

Here's what each election would look like with every state less than 4% going to a certain candidate (essentially a 4% swing):







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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 05:27:33 PM »

You have Hawaii as a solidly Trump state
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 06:39:43 PM »

Whoops, that's an error Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 06:40:50 PM »

The sheer number of close states in 2016 in contrast to 2012 is really interesting

Yes, this was definitely not a mandate election.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2017, 06:46:12 PM »

2016 had more states within 2 points than 2008 had within 4. That is weird
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 07:31:13 PM »

Wisconsin's margin was under 1% in the 3 non-Obama elections... I didn't remember Wisc being so close in 2000 & 2008
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2017, 02:08:47 PM »

Wisconsin's margin was under 1% in the 3 non-Obama elections... I didn't remember Wisc being so close in 2000 & 2008

Bush killed it in the WOW counties in Wisconsin. In 2008 Obama CRUSHED it in WI, winning it by 14 points. It was called right away after the polls closed. The contrast with 2016 is pretty stark.
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