Are you surprised that only 4 Arkansas counties swung left?
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« on: January 04, 2017, 03:58:15 PM »



Are surprised that Arkansas's former First Lady performed worse than Obama in all but 4 of the state's counties?
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 04:05:24 PM »

Yes. It's easy to imagine what a two-time Obama/Trump voter is like in Michigan or Pennsylvania. It's much more difficult in Arkansas.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 04:05:56 PM »

Well, to be fair, she never actually held elected office there.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2017, 08:23:49 PM »

I'm not at all surprised, personally.  I didn't view her as being enamored by residents of the state.  After Clinton's two terms of office, she (they) didn't move back to Arkansas.  Also, she was much more liberal than her husband was when he ran in 1992 and 1996. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 12:54:40 AM »

No her campaign in 16', were anathema in areas like this. If she ran a Clinton 08' campaign - Trump being considered a "populist factor", Arkansas and other such areas would've swung to Clinton.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 04:25:59 AM »

Not surprised really.

The people of AR always saw her as a librul carpetbagger anyway, not belonging to the South.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 08:20:27 AM »

Not surprised really.

The people of AR always saw her as a librul carpetbagger anyway, not belonging to the South.

No, not really.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 09:20:56 AM »

Not surprised really.

The people of AR always saw her as a librul carpetbagger anyway, not belonging to the South.
It's not carpetbagging if you move there to live with your husband.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 09:37:36 AM »

What's with Woodruff County voting twice for Obama? Seems to be a majority White county and it doesn't look like a college county as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2017, 09:42:29 AM »

Pretty funny that even though only 4 counties swung to Clinton, both the 2nd and 3rd districts swung to her.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2017, 10:18:17 AM »

Not in the slightest.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2017, 03:45:38 PM »

If black turnout was down around the country, that should at least in part explain this shift with Arkansas having a decent size black population.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2017, 04:40:17 PM »

Kind of, but not really.

I wonder if Arkansas would have swung even further right without Clinton's home state effect, or if she simply had no advantage there at all.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2017, 06:01:35 PM »

Kind of, but not really.

I wonder if Arkansas would have swung even further right without Clinton's home state effect, or if she simply had no advantage there at all.
She has no advantage here. Hillary has made it very clear she's willing to throw Bill Clinton's ideology to the winds and embrace his horrible persona.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2017, 12:04:57 AM »

Yes. It's easy to imagine what a two-time Obama/Trump voter is like in Michigan or Pennsylvania. It's much more difficult in Arkansas.

It was a consistent event in nearly all rural counties. Rural whites, especially rural southern and midwestern whites, swung away from the Democrat to the Republican. It happened in 2012 and it just accelerated in 2016. At some point the GOP won't have anymore white southerners to win, but that won't happen until these counties become 70-80% GOP. The reddest counties in West Virginia and eastern Kentucky swung even redder this year, because the few poor whites in coal country who voted for Obama went to Trump.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2017, 05:35:09 PM »

I'm not at all surprised, personally.  I didn't view her as being enamored by residents of the state.  After Clinton's two terms of office, she (they) didn't move back to Arkansas.  Also, she was much more liberal than her husband was when he ran in 1992 and 1996. 
On fiscal issues he is definitely more conservative but on Foreign Policy she is more of a hawk than he is.
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