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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2017, 10:37:09 PM »

I'm hoping for a Hick run against Gardner in 2020, it'd pretty much take the seat off the table.
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2017, 10:55:41 PM »

I'm hoping for a Hick run against Gardner in 2020, it'd pretty much take the seat off the table.

I don't doubt that Hick and Perlmutter would both be the end of Gardner, but I maintain my previous point: the Democrats don't just need to win, they need to build a newer, younger national bench. Neguse, once he most likely wins Polis' House seat, is going to be among the names to watch.
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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2017, 11:32:52 PM »

Governor Polis it is, then.  I would have much preferred Senator Polis, but this is a good substitute.

Anyway is the GOP bench here so dry that we're recruiting football people?  (I didn't even know who John Elway was before I googled him, lol.)
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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2017, 11:46:52 PM »

If John Elway or Peyton Manning entered the CO-GOV race, they would clear the GOP field and it would be Lean R.

This post reads like a satire of bronz.

John Elway would clean house, and it's not funny. Luckily he has been rumored to run every year since 2008, and has passed every time.

In all seriousness, this is very sad for Colorado, and very sad for the Democratic Party. Jared Polis comes with all the baggage of a "liberal Democrat," and none of Ed Perlmutter's working-class charm. I have been working in CO politics for a decade now, and can tell you that he is not a sure thing the way that Ed would have been (but at this point is absolutely the Democratic nominee). Jared is selfish and not very bright, and you can tell in interviews. I've run focus groups on him in the past, and he comes across as pompous to working-class people (so he isn't winning Pueblo back for us).

The upside, however, is that he is loaded, and that he has used his wealth to buy a statewide election before--albeit under slightly more neutral political conditions, and without the spotlight so intensely on him. Also, while I would prefer Ed from an ethical standpoint, Jared could lurch Colorado to the left, because he isn't beholden to major donors the way that any other candidate would be, so from a policy standpoint I could really get behind him. If he manages to turn out young people and urban Hispanics with a Corbyn-esque message, and stave off the relative losses he is going to face with rural Hispanics and wealthy suburbanites in Jeffco, he'll be okay.

Ultimately though, this race moves from Leans D to Tossup, unless the COGOP nominates somebody insane (and knowing their track record, they probably will).

Another note: Donna Lynne, who was appointed LG because Hickenlooper said she wouldn't run for Gov., is considering a run. She'll have the backing of the rich Denver donors, and probably Hickenlooper. But, unlike Ed, she has no personality and no track record of supporting working class people. Jared will bury her. But, she could really cement the loony Lefty opinion of him early on if she goes negative. This, coupled with a sane GOP candidate, not Brauchler for Chrissakes, think Stapleton or Cindy Coffman, could easily be the perfect storm the GOP needs to win back Colorado, national headwinds aside. Each party is basically promised ~900k votes in Colorado, so stay tuned.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2017, 12:24:03 AM »

Congratulations, Governor Polis.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2017, 02:07:45 AM »


So, would that make him Colorado's first gay governor?
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2017, 02:12:02 AM »


So, would that make him Colorado's first gay governor?

He'd be the first openly-gay man elected Governor in the US, I believe.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2017, 08:31:17 AM »

Well this is interesting, have had CO Gov. at tossup and will keep it there, but this should help the GOP.

 No, it really doesn't.
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2017, 09:08:59 AM »

Well this is interesting, have had CO Gov. at tossup and will keep it there, but this should help the GOP.

 No, it really doesn't.

Sure it does, Perlmutter would've been close to a lock in the GE while Polis - who could definitely still win, especially in a Democratic year - is a far weaker candidate.  Hopefully Perlmutter at least runs for Senate in 2020.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2017, 10:23:52 AM »

I don't get why people think Polis is weak, though I get coloradocowboi's point. His entrance, presumably, caused Perlmutter to drop out. I will admit bias, though, as I know people who have worked in his D.C. office.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2017, 04:22:46 PM »

I don't get why people think Polis is weak, though I get coloradocowboi's point. His entrance, presumably, caused Perlmutter to drop out. I will admit bias, though, as I know people who have worked in his D.C. office.

An earlier reply of mine didn't post. I've worked for both campaigns before. Polis is weak because he is perceived as too far left (even though the policy differences between them are minimal).

I'd reckon that being from Boulder and homophobia factor into this. Also being rich, and inheriting a lot of his wealth. On the other hand, I can also say that Jared does himself no favors. He is a pompous communicator, and has a terrible public image that is managed poorly. (And no, I'm not talking about the bow ties)...

To be clear, anyone who thinks that the race is "doom" for the GOP is delusional. Polis has a harder climb uphill than Perlmutter. It was Likely D with Perlmutter, and Tilts D with Polis. Money cannot buy you a Governor's seat, and the barriers he faces are real. Plus a gay liberal from Boulder will motivate the deplorable to show up en masse.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2017, 11:56:27 PM »

I don't get why people think Polis is weak, though I get coloradocowboi's point. His entrance, presumably, caused Perlmutter to drop out. I will admit bias, though, as I know people who have worked in his D.C. office.

An earlier reply of mine didn't post. I've worked for both campaigns before. Polis is weak because he is perceived as too far left (even though the policy differences between them are minimal).

I'd reckon that being from Boulder and homophobia factor into this. Also being rich, and inheriting a lot of his wealth. On the other hand, I can also say that Jared does himself no favors. He is a pompous communicator, and has a terrible public image that is managed poorly. (And no, I'm not talking about the bow ties)...

To be clear, anyone who thinks that the race is "doom" for the GOP is delusional. Polis has a harder climb uphill than Perlmutter. It was Likely D with Perlmutter, and Tilts D with Polis. Money cannot buy you a Governor's seat, and the barriers he faces are real. Plus a gay liberal from Boulder will motivate the deplorable to show up en masse.

But he plays League of Legends. Will the Redditors really turn on their own?
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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2017, 12:10:28 AM »

I don't get why people think Polis is weak, though I get coloradocowboi's point. His entrance, presumably, caused Perlmutter to drop out. I will admit bias, though, as I know people who have worked in his D.C. office.

An earlier reply of mine didn't post. I've worked for both campaigns before. Polis is weak because he is perceived as too far left (even though the policy differences between them are minimal).

I'd reckon that being from Boulder and homophobia factor into this. Also being rich, and inheriting a lot of his wealth. On the other hand, I can also say that Jared does himself no favors. He is a pompous communicator, and has a terrible public image that is managed poorly. (And no, I'm not talking about the bow ties)...

To be clear, anyone who thinks that the race is "doom" for the GOP is delusional. Polis has a harder climb uphill than Perlmutter. It was Likely D with Perlmutter, and Tilts D with Polis. Money cannot buy you a Governor's seat, and the barriers he faces are real. Plus a gay liberal from Boulder will motivate the deplorable to show up en masse.

But he plays League of Legends. Will the Redditors really turn on their own?

As they say in certain circles, I lol'd. Well played.
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« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2017, 12:38:56 AM »

If John Elway or Peyton Manning entered the CO-GOV race, they would clear the GOP field and it would be Lean R.

Peyton Manning would just run for Indiana Senate and win by 20.

Manning strikes me as someone who would be more likely to run in TN, if he ever gets the itch

If he tried, a caravan of Hoosiers would storm down highway 57, kidnap him, and *make * him run for Senate in IN. He just wouldn't have an option.
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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2017, 02:40:37 AM »

Oh well. There goes my hope for a Perlmutter vs. Polis vs. Romanoff vs. Ritter vs. Kennedy vs. García vs. Terrance Carroll or John Kefalaa primary.
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