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WalterMitty
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« on: July 17, 2005, 11:21:07 PM »

yes, of course they are.

the burning of the 'compound' in waco was a very sad terrorist act.

how come no one cries for those innocent victims?
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2005, 11:49:03 PM »

1. If the ATF is a terrorist organization then the United States Government is a terrorist organization.

2. The "burning" actually happened unintentionally.  When tear gas was used it accidently led to a fire.

3. While there were certainly innocents who died at Waco, the Branch-Davidians DID open fire on Federal Agents coming to investigate charges of child molestation.  Do you believe that child molesters should be able to open fire at the cops?
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2005, 12:02:54 AM »

1. If the ATF is a terrorist organization then the United States Government is a terrorist organization.

2. The "burning" actually happened unintentionally.  When tear gas was used it accidently led to a fire.

3. While there were certainly innocents who died at Waco, the Branch-Davidians DID open fire on Federal Agents coming to investigate charges of child molestation.  Do you believe that child molesters should be able to open fire at the cops?

do you really believe #2?

no i dont believe *suspected* child molesters (or anyone else) should be able to fire at cops.  however, i certainly dont believe the gestapo should burn down places and kill innocents.

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2005, 12:26:16 AM »

I voted yes but that was mainly the fault of Janet Reno.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2005, 01:49:38 AM »

how come no one cries for those innocent victims?

I believe they were religious.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2005, 01:56:15 AM »

The ATF is by the nature of its job, a group that is forced into some tough situations. Waco was one of them and was handled very poorly from the top to the bottom. Reno should've been given the boot first of all. Also, can you imagine the uproar is Ashcroft had ordered a compound attacked and then had the thing burn down on him. The Dems would've called for his execution on the Capitol steps.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2005, 02:16:13 AM »

Not if the media told you that the people inside were Islamic Extremists...whether the statement be true or no.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2005, 04:21:46 AM »

1. If the ATF is a terrorist organization then the United States Government is a terrorist organization.

2. The "burning" actually happened unintentionally.  When tear gas was used it accidently led to a fire.

3. While there were certainly innocents who died at Waco, the Branch-Davidians DID open fire on Federal Agents coming to investigate charges of child molestation.  Do you believe that child molesters should be able to open fire at the cops?

investigationg alleged child molestation is under state jurisdiction. The feds had nothing to do there.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2005, 08:35:43 AM »

1. If the ATF is a terrorist organization then the United States Government is a terrorist organization.

2. The "burning" actually happened unintentionally.  When tear gas was used it accidently led to a fire.

3. While there were certainly innocents who died at Waco, the Branch-Davidians DID open fire on Federal Agents coming to investigate charges of child molestation.  Do you believe that child molesters should be able to open fire at the cops?

so is the FTC
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