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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2016, 10:48:51 PM »

Here's one short guideline to start with that the Democrats should (likely never will) adapt to.

Dems should immediately fire everyone at the DNC and shed all ties to the establishment wing.
Appoint a Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders or Keith Ellison to head the DNC.
Stop taking money from the f-ing banks and major corps - else Dems will not be trusted.
Embrace and actively fight alongside the working class, for industrial unions, etc.
Most critically, they need to actively resist every policy put forward by Trump. No compromise.
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2016, 11:11:35 PM »

He's a cisgender, heterosexual white male from the Deep South.  That's five strikes against him already in today's Democratic Party.

This is exactly the image that we do need to shed. Someone needs to be judged based on qualifications, not race and gender. Of course the Republican party needs to learn this as well.

Bingo, and I saw this exact problem coming years ago.  From today forward, any Democratic politician who continues to say "white privilege" in public needs to be run out of the party immediately.

Do Democratic politicians actually say "white privilege," though?  Don't confuse the party with the base.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2016, 06:32:58 AM »

He's a cisgender, heterosexual white male from the Deep South.  That's five strikes against him already in today's Democratic Party.

This is exactly the image that we do need to shed. Someone needs to be judged based on qualifications, not race and gender. Of course the Republican party needs to learn this as well.

Bingo, and I saw this exact problem coming years ago.  From today forward, any Democratic politician who continues to say "white privilege" in public needs to be run out of the party immediately.

Do Democratic politicians actually say "white privilege," though?  Don't confuse the party with the base.

Several have this year.  While Clinton didn't, she did say that "everyone has implicit bias" in the 1st debate.  While technically true, it is quite reasonable to think that at least 100,000 people watching in the Upper Midwest took it as another deplorables style insult.

Rand Paul and Newt Gingrich said that they don't understand the black experience in America because they are not black.  Are they "elitists" now?
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2016, 08:31:22 AM »

He's a cisgender, heterosexual white male from the Deep South.  That's five strikes against him already in today's Democratic Party.

This is exactly the image that we do need to shed. Someone needs to be judged based on qualifications, not race and gender. Of course the Republican party needs to learn this as well.

Bingo, and I saw this exact problem coming years ago.  From today forward, any Democratic politician who continues to say "white privilege" in public needs to be run out of the party immediately.

Do Democratic politicians actually say "white privilege," though?  Don't confuse the party with the base.

Several have this year.  While Clinton didn't, she did say that "everyone has implicit bias" in the 1st debate.  While technically true, it is quite reasonable to think that at least 100,000 people watching in the Upper Midwest took it as another deplorables style insult.

Rand Paul and Newt Gingrich said that they don't understand the black experience in America because they are not black.  Are they "elitists" now?
That's what we should be doing to.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2016, 11:12:24 AM »

I'm sorry but can we cut this idea that there's hatred towards 'white straight men' in the Democratic party; as someone who is gay there's countless primaries where I supported the 'straight white man' (Van Hollen over Edwards)

I'd happily support someone like Tim Kaine, Al Franken et al because they're extremely qualified, and decent democrats.

Likewise Neoliberalism should become the new Godwin theory
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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2016, 12:54:35 PM »

The problem is that the people who run the party have exactly the attitude towards white people not from their own social group that Irving Howe railed against in the late 60s when such views were aired by elements on the counterculturist New Left and student movements etc... of course part of the problem is that we are literally talking about the same people in some cases aren't we...
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2016, 03:09:28 AM »

Replace the current leadership with younger, fresher faces. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer just drip with elitism.
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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2016, 09:55:37 AM »

First of all. No one that we all know should be nominated for President in 2020 or 2024. Or they are not yet a politician.

This.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2016, 07:46:59 AM »

The Dems should also move to the center or the right on gun control and abortion.
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2016, 09:48:48 AM »

The Dems should also move to the center or the right on gun control and abortion.


We can definitely try to just do universal bg checks and no-fly-no-gun, but we can add in pathways for the restoration of gun rights at the federal level too. So we mix in 2nd Amendment with Criminal Justice Reform. That could work.

On Church-State issues, we are more tied on. If Roe is overturned, we can have a federal vote-your-conscience platform but push pro-choice laws at the state level or even just through referendums when we can.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2016, 10:12:51 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2016, 10:15:44 AM by vileplume »

In all honesty, we can't. Not without sacrificing our ideals. Bernie Sanders is a very unique individual and there simply aren't many like him who can be both an intellectual and a man of the people. Jeremy Corbyn comes to mind, but he's British.

In all honesty, we can't. Not without sacrificing our ideals. Bernie Sanders is a very unique individual and there simply aren't many like him who can be both an intellectual and a man of the people. Jeremy Corbyn comes to mind, but he's British.

Lol that is hilarious. Jeremy Corbyn is the most unpopular leader of a major British political party since polling began. True he appeals to a very niche selection of the electorate but everyone else thinks he is a combination dangerous, extreme, incompetent and a joke or all of the above and that includes the majority of the white working class. Plus Jeremy Corbyn is not an intellectual either his educational background is nothing to write home about. He was lucky he had rich parents and grew up on an estate in Wiltshire which is why he is where he is now it's got nothing to do with his own personal talents. Plus some of the political pitfalls he has sleepwalked into don't exactly show someone that is all that bright. If you think that the American version of Corbyn is the answer, if someone so disastrous even exists, (and no Bernie and Corbyn are not even vaguely comparable) then get ready for 1984 all over again.
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