Can a Republican win any of these states in 2008 against a good democrat

[MissCatholic]

Romney could win MA

Um yeah. A guy who wins with 50% in a governor's race against a fairly weak candidate could certainly win it in a much more partisan Presidential race

I also highly doubt Guilani could win NY after his convention speech.

I didn't say would, I said could.  Would all depends on the course of the campaign, and I wouldn't be so bold as to draw the electoral map four years before an election.  However, I think its a bit silly to say that neither Rudy Giuliani nor Mitt Romney could not win their home state.

Rudis speech was a disgace. I would never vote for him.

[minionofmidas]

Connecticut and Delaware might go in a "populist Dem vs John McCain or Rudy Giuliani" race.

[bgwah]

No.

Why would Washington? It's been voting Democrat longer than California or Illinois and isn't trending Republican (unlike Minnesota and Wisconsin which are other states that have been voting Dem as long as Washington).

[Lincoln Republican]

Can a Republican win any of these states against a "good" Democrat?

Not likely.

By the way Miss Catholic, why are you "frustrated?"

I'm frustrated as we have a President who is taking this country really no where. I have a senator that represents my state but is incredibly dishonest. Healthcare costs are going up. More people are paying bills on their credit cards and hence increases personal debt. Education is going down the toilet. We have no discipline in school (i think uniforms might have to become compulsory.)

Also i'm told that i cant be a democrat if i'm against abortion. Why not? Buty i could go on all day. So i'm just waiting for 412 months for this nightmare to end before we can really fix the problems that affect all Americans not just the few.

Thank you for your response.  I can appreciate you have strong, heartfelt views in these matters.  I may not agree with your views in most of them, but I respect your right to hold them. 

I agree with your statement about Democrats who are pro life.  I have found that Democrats in general are quite intolerant of Democrats who are pro life.       

412 months?  Hey, 34 more years of Republican rule suits me just fine.
I'm sure you mean 41 months?

Not that I want to "frustrate" you any further, I can see you have enough in your life already, but, do you realize, that besides the new Supreme Court nomination GWB announced Jul 19, John Roberts, that GWB will in all likelyhood be making at least one more appointment, and quite possibly 2 more appointments to the Supreme Court, all very conservative?   





   

[RJ]

Why does everyone keep saying CT? I think IL s more likely to flip than CT. MD and DE are the most likely if you ask me, but it would take not only a good Republican but a bad Democrat as well. WA is also possible if there are some kind of extraordinary circumstances on or near election day, such as a natural disaster along the coast...

Hey, Miss Catholic and Winfield: I think the Democratic party in general is more tolerant of pro lifers than the GOP is pro choicers.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Romney could win MA

Um yeah. A guy who wins with 50% in a governor's race against a fairly weak candidate could certainly win it in a much more partisan Presidential race

I also highly doubt Guilani could win NY after his convention speech.

I didn't say would, I said could.  Would all depends on the course of the campaign, and I wouldn't be so bold as to draw the electoral map four years before an election.  However, I think its a bit silly to say that neither Rudy Giuliani nor Mitt Romney could not win their home state.

it's a moot point since neither one will win the nomination (The GOPO base will never accept a socially liberal adulteror or a Mormon). But in the thread discussing the possibility of Brad Henry running, no one argued he could win Oklahoma. Same for Romney, who is also far less popular in Massachusetts than Henry is in Oklahoma. For some reason most Republicans seem to think Romney is as popular as William Weld (I've also heard claims he could win the Senate seat next year if Ted Kennedy retires, which he would have to be more popular than Weld to do.)

[Bono]

Can a Republican win any of these states against a "good" Democrat?

Not likely.

By the way Miss Catholic, why are you "frustrated?"

I'm frustrated as we have a President who is taking this country really no where. I have a senator that represents my state but is incredibly dishonest. Healthcare costs are going up. More people are paying bills on their credit cards and hence increases personal debt. Education is going down the toilet. We have no discipline in school (i think uniforms might have to become compulsory.)

Also i'm told that i cant be a democrat if i'm against abortion. Why not? Buty i could go on all day. So i'm just waiting for 412 months for this nightmare to end before we can really fix the problems that affect all Americans not just the few.

Of course, the state government has nothing to do with those things.
If your worried about lack of discipline in the schools, shouldn't you take it out on your schoolboard, instead of the feds?

[minionofmidas]

Why does everyone keep saying CT? I think IL s more likely to flip than CT. MD and DE are the most likely if you ask me, but it would take not only a good Republican but a bad Democrat as well. WA is also possible if there are some kind of extraordinary circumstances on or near election day, such as a natural disaster along the coast...

IL...no way. Look at how polarized that state is. No "good" Democratic candidate could lose that state. Same thing with Washington, although it's way closer. It would go if the Reps won a decisive victory...but that would mean there was no good Dem candidate.
CT/DE/*perhaps* MD (and even NJ?) are a different shop altogether. They're all very suburban states, except for Maryland they did vote for Gerald Ford, and NJ and CT have been a good bit closer in 04 than in 2000.
There's people here who're hoping for a realignment back to something more closely like 76, ie more class based and less social issues based than now. There are others that wouldn't rule it out. In such a scenario these states would all be very much in play. Of course they'd be counterbalanced by Dem pickups in the Upper South.

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About the same I'd say. Both parties have *some* people who find it hard to fathom/stomach that such people should exist.

[MissCatholic]

Can a Republican win any of these states against a "good" Democrat?

Not likely.

By the way Miss Catholic, why are you "frustrated?"

I'm frustrated as we have a President who is taking this country really no where. I have a senator that represents my state but is incredibly dishonest. Healthcare costs are going up. More people are paying bills on their credit cards and hence increases personal debt. Education is going down the toilet. We have no discipline in school (i think uniforms might have to become compulsory.)

Also i'm told that i cant be a democrat if i'm against abortion. Why not? Buty i could go on all day. So i'm just waiting for 412 months for this nightmare to end before we can really fix the problems that affect all Americans not just the few.

Thank you for your response.  I can appreciate you have strong, heartfelt views in these matters.  I may not agree with your views in most of them, but I respect your right to hold them. 

I agree with your statement about Democrats who are pro life.  I have found that Democrats in general are quite intolerant of Democrats who are pro life.       

412 months?  Hey, 34 more years of Republican rule suits me just fine.
I'm sure you mean 41 months?

Not that I want to "frustrate" you any further, I can see you have enough in your life already, but, do you realize, that besides the new Supreme Court nomination GWB announced Jul 19, John Roberts, that GWB will in all likelyhood be making at least one more appointment, and quite possibly 2 more appointments to the Supreme Court, all very conservative?   





   

Bush as Presidnet has the right to elect any judges he choses. As long as they have good credentials and dont become activists, i really dont care who he choses.

 

[MODU]

Maryland, Delaware, and California are the only states I would think a solid Republican can take away from a good Democrat.  Of course, this would have to be a more moderate Republican rather than a conservative.

[minionofmidas]

A good Democrat should be good enough in painting his opponent as an extremist to prevent a taking of California.

[WalterMitty]

Giulinai could win NY, Romney could win MA, a good Republican could beat a good Democrat in WA.  McCain could put some of these in paly.

For the most part, aside from Washington, I agree with the consensus that under only rare circumstances could any of these states be won against a strong Democratic candidate.

john ford, i hate to disagree with you, but there is little chance romney could carry mass.

although, he is surprisingly popular in the state.

[MODU]

A good Democrat should be good enough in painting his opponent as an extremist to prevent a taking of California.

Possibly, but I look at it this way.  It will only take a 5% change from last election to turn the state over to Republican, which is up from 6% in 2000 and 7% in 1996 (though Perot really skewed that with his 7%).  Put in a moderate Republican, and that gap has a potential of narrowing or disappearing all together.  

[skybridge]

Also i'm told that i cant be a democrat if i'm against abortion. Why not?

Just remind them you're Catholic, like John F. Kennedy, a pretty popular figure produced by the Democratic party.

[Inmate Trump]

I could see a Republican winning Washington, Connecticut, Maryland, and Delaware depending, of course, on the Democratic candidate.