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« on: September 19, 2016, 04:02:45 PM »

How does Trump's presidential bid compare to that of Barry Goldwater?

From what I have read, he was also an outsider who used pretty divisive rhetoric in the run up to the 1964 election.

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 04:08:09 PM »

"Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice."

Of course, Donald Trump's idea of freedom is a global safe space for him and his ilk, quite unlike Goldwater's.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 04:32:42 PM »

Goldwater's presidential bid was fantastic and sowed the seeds of American conservatism for decades to come, while Trump's is a pointless attention exercise. Hard to see how they might be particularly comparable.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 04:34:42 PM »

They're not comparable. Trump might actually win. Goldwater never had a shot.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 04:36:04 PM »

Goldwater was a dead-man as soon as he talked of gutting Social Security.

trump could actually win, at worst he'll lose by John Kerry margins. Also, his campaign has implicitly been about big government, granted only for few.

But really, the comparison is stupid.

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 04:40:31 PM »

How does Trump's presidential bid compare to that of Barry Goldwater?

From what I have read, he was also an outsider who used pretty divisive rhetoric in the run up to the 1964 election.



Goldwater, although certainly an extremist, was a man of integrity, civility, and consistency.  Trump has none of those traits.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 05:08:35 PM »

How does Trump's presidential bid compare to that of Barry Goldwater?

From what I have read, he was also an outsider who used pretty divisive rhetoric in the run up to the 1964 election.



Goldwater, although certainly an extremist, was a man of integrity, civility, and consistency.  Trump has none of those traits.

Basically this. Whatever you think of Goldwater, he had principles and he knew what they were and could give a logical argument for them. Although he was wrong on the 64 civil rights bill, in a lot of ways Goldwater was a massive FF. In terms of the election, Goldeater had no chance partially because he was a conservative in the era of big government and partly because of the death of Kennedy the year before the election.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PM »

How does Trump's presidential bid compare to that of Barry Goldwater?

From what I have read, he was also an outsider who used pretty divisive rhetoric in the run up to the 1964 election.



Goldwater wasn't a social conservative.  Because of his opposition to Civil Rights legislation, this wasn't apparent in 1964.  He was the closest thing to a true Libertarian to obtain the GOP Presidential nomination.

Goldwater, although certainly an extremist, was a man of integrity, civility, and consistency.  Trump has none of those traits.

Basically this. Whatever you think of Goldwater, he had principles and he knew what they were and could give a logical argument for them. Although he was wrong on the 64 civil rights bill, in a lot of ways Goldwater was a massive FF. In terms of the election, Goldeater had no chance partially because he was a conservative in the era of big government and partly because of the death of Kennedy the year before the election.
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