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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2016, 12:47:21 AM »


This, more or less.
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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2016, 02:42:22 AM »

Bush wins 45 states.  Trump was the ONLY Republican who had any chance of losing in 2016, and he even managed to win.  The bottom line was that we weren't going to elect Hillary Clinton, and America would NEVER elect a self-proclaimed communist socialist.


You're funny, and delusional.
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2016, 02:54:19 AM »



This.

Also, Kander, Ross, and Feingold would've gotten in comfortably.

Gregg would've defeated Holcomb OR Pence (depending on whether or not Jeb! went with Pence)


But yeah, Sanders would've gone to those rural Eastern NC counties and the millennial energy would've been enough to counter the rest of the state. Also highly doubt Western NC would've been nearly as enthused for Jeb.

And of course he would've hung onto the Midwest.

It'd be at a cost in Nevada, Texas, and Arizona though.




Bush wins 45 states loses.  Trump was the ONLY Republican who had any chance of losing winning in 2016, and he even barely managed to win.  The bottom line was that we weren't going to elect Hillary Clinton another Bush, and America would NEVER RATHER elect a self-proclaimed communist socialist.


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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2016, 07:58:56 AM »

I honestly pity the Jeb Bush fanboys!

Jeb Bush can run for the presidency for the next 100 years (if he lives) with 1B$ everytime & he would still lose. That guy is such a joke he would lose even if he ran like his life depended on it.

Even calling the guy Low energy is a huge complement.

Here is a tribute to our favorite dork - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EhhtezPD9Y

Guy even begs at Townhall for an applause - And even small times organizers kick him out.
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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2016, 11:49:44 AM »

But if Bush was the nominee, he would become a dynamo.
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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2016, 01:09:20 PM »

For all my GOP friends, most of whom happen to be not very intelligent or educated & people have never studies macroeconomics.

Here is another video of this dork who would probably lose to Stein even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yHckRTkcZg

Look at how this dud pulls the hoodie & sounds like a dork.
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2016, 05:10:14 PM »

Talk about not very intelligent or educated.

Anyone who believes the Republican nominee would lose to Stein of the Greens could not be very bright.

Hate to tell you, but I am a university graduate, and although my major was not economics, that was part of my studies.

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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2016, 06:46:22 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2017, 10:52:25 PM »

Bush wins 45 states.  Trump was the ONLY Republican who had any chance of losing in 2016, and he even managed to win.  The bottom line was that we weren't going to elect Hillary Clinton, and America would NEVER elect a self-proclaimed communist socialist.

2008: America will NEVER elect a northern black liberal who's only been in the Senate for four years!
2016: America will NEVER elect a reality TV star who's never held elected office, who's filed for bankruptcy four times, and who was caught on video saying the wanted to grab women by the p*ssy
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2017, 10:55:30 PM »

Bush wins 45 states.  Trump was the ONLY Republican who had any chance of losing in 2016, and he even managed to win.  The bottom line was that we weren't going to elect Hillary Clinton, and America would NEVER elect a self-proclaimed communist socialist.

2008: America will NEVER elect a northern black liberal who's only been in the Senate for four years!
2016: America will NEVER elect a reality TV star who's never held elected office, who's filed for bankruptcy four times, and who was caught on video saying the wanted to grab women by the p*ssy

For all we know in 2020 there is a big recession in the rust belt and Keith Ellison is the new savior and landslides in the rust belt and midwest against Trump.
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2017, 11:20:14 PM »



Sanders/Booker - 327
Bush/Walker - 211

The suburbs are baked-in and not swingable. Hillary put most of her campaign resources trying to get Republican suburbanites to abandon the P*ssygrabber and vote for her, and look how that worked out. Latte liberals & social liberals in a place like NOVA or Connecticut won't vote for any Republican and certainly not for a Bush. Sanders might have gotten slightly lower turnout, but he still would have won them. Also, Jeb would have had none of Trump's appeal to White Working Class & Rural Voters, and in fact would have been toxic to these voters: he had supported all of the trade agreements that Trump opposed, as well as liberalization of immigration policy, and was part of the same despised establishment as Hillary. Combine that with his low energy loserdom and he would have lost badly to Sanders.
If Bernie would pull off Missouri (which would be a challenge as we just elected Greitens (basically Missouri's Trump) as Governor, and re-elected Sen. Blunt who no one really cares for against a more likable, young Democrat; but very possible) then he'd at least win NC and FL if not GA and AZ.

Sanders appeals to a different coalition and would have run a different campaign than Clinton, while Jeb has a different coalition and would have run a different campaign from Trump. Sanders flipping IN, MO, and AK is the analogue of Trump winning PA, WI, and MI. FL would be either safe or very strong Jeb because of the home state factor and Cubans, while Sanders's campaign would have run a Rust Belt-focused campaign and not gone after GA and NC
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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2017, 11:24:30 PM »

Can the words "America would NEVER elect _______" be banned? Just about anything that we think could fit in the blank is probably wrong.

Anyway, seeing how this year went, Sanders probably would have beaten Jeb, narrowly. There wouldn't have been much crossover voting, and a lot of the independents in the Midwest who broke for Trump would've gone for the "change" candidate in this scenario (Sanders) as well.
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