Kasich vs Hillary

[Thunderbird is the word]

Kasich-Ryan    322
Clinton-Castro 216

[dax00]

The sad part is, I can't even disagree with the map above :/

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Kasich-Ryan    322
Clinton-Castro 216

It's a pretty good map for Kasich, but vs. Clinton I'd think it would be quite doable. Hillary really needs a truly awful Republican (like Trump or Cruz) in order to make her look good.

[Thunderbird is the word]

Kasich-Ryan    322
Clinton-Castro 216

It's a pretty good map for Kasich, but vs. Clinton I'd think it would be quite doable. Hillary really needs a truly awful Republican (like Trump or Cruz) in order to make her look good.

Yeah, I might even give him Michigan in this scenario come to think of it.

[PeteB]

Latest WI Emerson poll (just came out) for the two:

Kasich 52%
Clinton 38%

...says it all!

[Ebsy]

who care

[Derpist]

Kasich is absurdly overrated. No one knows anything about Kasich besides his campaign shtick "I'm the moderate, compromise-friendly Republican!"

When American voters find out that he's moderate in all of the wrong ways (wall street, war), his favorables will drop to where a generic Republican's is. And we'll get back to partisan trench warfare.

We saw this exact same phenomenon with John McCain. All these liberals loved him...until he became the nominee and they had to actually read up on his views.

I'd put $$$ on Kasich v. Clinton being a nailbiter. And Kasich v. Sanders being a blowout for Sanders.

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Seems about right. Maybe Hillary wins Nevada or Kasich wins Michigan.

[Thunderbird is the word]

My bad, I forgot to have Kasich winning Colorado by at least fifty points

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Kasich is absurdly overrated. No one knows anything about Kasich besides his campaign shtick "I'm the moderate, compromise-friendly Republican!"

When American voters find out that he's moderate in all of the wrong ways (wall street, war), his favorables will drop to where a generic Republican's is. And we'll get back to partisan trench warfare.

We saw this exact same phenomenon with John McCain. All these liberals loved him...until he became the nominee and they had to actually read up on his views.

I'd put $$$ on Kasich v. Clinton being a nailbiter. And Kasich v. Sanders being a blowout for Sanders.

Kasich is socially right wing, as pro-war as Hillary, if not more, and tied to the banking industry too. But he's also got a resume that's as least as impressive as hers, if not more (Congress, executive branch, private industry, governor) and while you can argue about his successes as a politician, he hasn't been a disaster (objectively, he's been pretty effective). And he doesn't have decades of nationally infamous divisiveness and scandals following him around. And he's not Cruz or Trump.

Combined, I think those make him look pretty good to a lot of voters who would embrace Hillary when the alternative is Trump or Cruz. (Heck, look at me. I'm pretty far left on most things, and I'd vote Hillary over Trump or Cruz without question. Kasich... we'll I don't really like her much, and I'm not sure she that far left of Kasich on anything but a handful of social issues. Edit: To clarify, I wouldn't vote for Kasich, but I might vote third party or just not vote for president, rather than voting for Hillary.)

[dax00]

Seems about right. Maybe Hillary wins Nevada or Kasich wins Michigan.

Hillary stands NO chance against Kasich in Nevada.

[SillyAmerican]

Kasich is absurdly overrated. No one knows anything about Kasich besides his campaign shtick "I'm the moderate, compromise-friendly Republican!"

When American voters find out that he's moderate in all of the wrong ways (wall street, war), his favorables will drop to where a generic Republican's is. And we'll get back to partisan trench warfare.

We saw this exact same phenomenon with John McCain. All these liberals loved him...until he became the nominee and they had to actually read up on his views.

I'd put $$$ on Kasich v. Clinton being a nailbiter. And Kasich v. Sanders being a blowout for Sanders.

I don't think so. Anybody that's paying attention have a pretty good idea of what Kasich is about. For me, the big reason for my support of Kasich boils down to one thing: he's the one candidate that I trust would be effective at holding the line on spending. Period. I think that's absolutely critical. But as others have mentioned, he's also got a solid resume: he's been to congress, worked within presidential administrations, been in private industry, and has been a very effective Governor. So what views of his are you concerned about?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Kasich-Ryan    322
Clinton-Castro 216

Thats exactly my map though my Bernie vs Kasich map is even a bigger Kasich win

[OSR stands with Israel]

Kasich is absurdly overrated. No one knows anything about Kasich besides his campaign shtick "I'm the moderate, compromise-friendly Republican!"

When American voters find out that he's moderate in all of the wrong ways (wall street, war), his favorables will drop to where a generic Republican's is. And we'll get back to partisan trench warfare.

We saw this exact same phenomenon with John McCain. All these liberals loved him...until he became the nominee and they had to actually read up on his views.

I'd put $$$ on Kasich v. Clinton being a nailbiter. And Kasich v. Sanders being a blowout for Sanders.

You are right that Kasich vs Sanders being a blowout for sanders, a blowout defeat

[Derpist]

I don't think so. Anybody that's paying attention have a pretty good idea of what Kasich is about. For me, the big reason for my support of Kasich boils down to one thing: he's the one candidate that I trust would be effective at holding the line on spending. Period. I think that's absolutely critical. But as others have mentioned, he's also got a solid resume: he's been to congress, worked within presidential administrations, been in private industry, and has been a very effective Governor. So what views of his are you concerned about?

Two words. Lehman. Brothers.

He can't walk away from that. He has repeatedly defended Wall Street with every chance he's gotten. From defending bank bailouts at the debate to promising that he wouldn't touch the carried interest loophole to attacking Sanders for just not liking Wall Street. It's horrifying. 

That and he wants to invade more countries than I can count.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Voter turnout would drop significantly.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I don't think so. Anybody that's paying attention have a pretty good idea of what Kasich is about. For me, the big reason for my support of Kasich boils down to one thing: he's the one candidate that I trust would be effective at holding the line on spending. Period. I think that's absolutely critical. But as others have mentioned, he's also got a solid resume: he's been to congress, worked within presidential administrations, been in private industry, and has been a very effective Governor. So what views of his are you concerned about?

Two words. Lehman. Brothers.

He can't walk away from that. He has repeatedly defended Wall Street with every chance he's gotten. From defending bank bailouts at the debate to promising that he wouldn't touch the carried interest loophole to attacking Sanders for just not liking Wall Street. It's horrifying. 

That and he wants to invade more countries than I can count.

invade more countries lol he clearly said going invading iraq was wrong, and libya was a disaster. He said he would involve US troops against ISIS while working with the IRaqi government , dont see how thats invading

[Derpist]

invade more countries lol he clearly said going invading iraq was wrong, and libya was a disaster. He said he would involve US troops against ISIS while working with the IRaqi government , dont see how thats invading

Having read up some more about Kasich's foreign policy statements...they seem totally incoherent in the Middle East. Some condemning of the Obama's criminal Libya bombing, then a pledge to enter Libya with ground troops? Eh, incomprehensible is better than what we have now.

His stance on Russia is scary and he's the only person left in the race who still backs the TPP, which manages to simultaneously wage war on American workers and China at the same time.

[OSR stands with Israel]

invade more countries lol he clearly said going invading iraq was wrong, and libya was a disaster. He said he would involve US troops against ISIS while working with the IRaqi government , dont see how thats invading

Having read up some more about Kasich's foreign policy statements...they seem totally incoherent in the Middle East. Some condemning of the Obama's criminal Libya bombing, then a pledge to enter Libya with ground troops? Eh, incomprehensible is better than what we have now.

His stance on Russia is scary and he's the only person left in the race who still backs the TPP, which manages to simultaneously wage war on American workers and China at the same time.

I agree with his Libyan position it was wron in 2011 but terrorists now control it and must be stopped. TPP and NAFTA didnt cause blue collars jobs to be lost the tech revoultion did just like how the industrial revoultion caused a lot of the agricultural jobs to be lost

[Derpist]

I agree with his Libyan position it was wron in 2011 but terrorists now control it and must be stopped. TPP and NAFTA didnt cause blue collars jobs to be lost the tech revoultion did just like how the industrial revoultion caused a lot of the agricultural jobs to be lost

...I actually guess that's a reasonable stance on Libya. I don't agree with it, but it won't make me retch. Kasich's stance that we should shoot down Russian planes bombing ISIS still paints him as an extreme neoconservative still living in the Cold War (aka the entire foreign policy establishment).

Also, there's a difference between inevitable job loss from automation and conscious policy choices made by the corporations who secretly wrote the TPP in their nasty villainous cave of evil (also known as DC). Just because you're going to lose your foot to frostbite doesn't mean you should saw off your whole damn leg. The TPP has been absolute deal-breaker from the beginning of the campaign for me.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Can we please stop all this Kasich nonsense?
If the RNC selects a non-TRUMP, non-Cruz nominee then he is definitely will not be Kasich.

[Dr. Arch]

Only in Atlas.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Kasich does not have the vibrance to be a successful candidate.