IF... IF... the worst possibility about Trump/Russia is true... then what?

[Blue3]

IF (stressing the "if" because this is hypothetical, a thought experiment)... I really think and hope Trump just likes Putin for whatever reason and this is all completely overblown, but IF the very worst possibility about Trump and Putin/Russia is true, and Trump and some in his administration's first loyalty is to Russia for whatever reason... and if it's not discovered for several years... then what's the worst that Trump/administration could get away with?

(Breaking up NATO? Undermining faith in American democracy? Giving the nuclear codes, and all military passwords/designs/secrets to Putin? Filling numerous posts with Russian secret agents who will remain in their jobs long after Trump leaves? We peacefully hand over our military bases and equipment and anti-missile system and nukes to Russia?)

What's the very very worst, extreme nightmare-scenario case?

[pbrower2a]

IF... I really think and hope Trump just likes Putin for whatever reason and this is all completely overblown, but IF the very worst possibility about Trump and Putin/Russia is true, and Trump and some in his administration's first loyalty is to Russia for whatever reason... and if it's not discovered for several years... then what's the worst that Trump/administration could get away with?

(Breaking up NATO? Undermining faith in American democracy? Giving the nuclear codes, and all military passwords/designs/secrets to Putin? Filling numerous posts with Russian secret agents who will remain in their jobs long after Trump leaves? We peacefully hand over our military bases and equipment and anti-missile system and nukes to Russia?)

What's the very very worst, extreme nightmare-scenario case?

America becomes a pure, corrupt plutocracy with its democracy gutted. 

[Blue3]

Chill. If anything like codes or any other things like that were passed along, you could bet your ass there would be leaks. The media would find out about that almost right away.

I am. And just asking people to entertain the possibility. Because I never really seriously have thought it through completely. IF the worst is true, then what's the worst damage that could come of it? I am stressing the IF, because this is hypothetical.

[The Other Castro]

Trump's team is too incompetent to run a secret Russian operation and not have evidence get out. Also, the nuclear codes are regularly switched out.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Chill. If anything like codes or any other things like that were passed along, you could bet your ass there would be leaks. The media would find out about that almost right away.

I am. And just asking people to entertain the possibility. Because I never really seriously have thought it through completely. IF the worst is true, then what's the worst damage that could come of it? I am stressing the IF, because this is hypothetical.

-If Barack Obama was a crypto-Muslim, what was the worst damage that could come of it?

[Blue3]

Chill. If anything like codes or any other things like that were passed along, you could bet your ass there would be leaks. The media would find out about that almost right away.

I am. And just asking people to entertain the possibility. Because I never really seriously have thought it through completely. IF the worst is true, then what's the worst damage that could come of it? I am stressing the IF, because this is hypothetical.

-If Barack Obama was a crypto-Muslim, what was the worst damage that could come of it?

I'm sure that thread was made, and as long it was another hypothetical, no harm entertaining that too.

[The_Doctor]

The worst case is the utter destruction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. Essentially we'd be a one party system for a while (happened 1800-1840). Trump would be impeached, the Republican Party would face annihilation, and the left would elect an extremely powerful president to right the course.

In a sense it would lead to a autocratic President because the impulse would be to elect someone from the opposite end to fix things and there would be a complete collapse of support for the Right. Bannon will get his wish to destroy the Republican establishment but he might be horrified at what replaces it.

Trump is a long term disaster for the Republicans and the country.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

The worst case is the utter destruction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. Essentially we'd be a one party system for a while (happened 1800-1840). Trump would be impeached, the Republican Party would face annihilation, and the left would elect an extremely powerful president to right the course.

In a sense it would lead to a autocratic President because the impulse would be to elect someone from the opposite end to fix things and there would be a complete collapse of support for the Right. Bannon will get his wish to destroy the Republican establishment but he might be horrified at what replaces it.

Trump is a long term disaster for the Republicans and the country.

-Define your terms, make concrete predictions.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This is why the Electors should have kept Trump out, or Obama should have declared Martial Law.

[The_Doctor]

The worst case is the utter destruction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. Essentially we'd be a one party system for a while (happened 1800-1840). Trump would be impeached, the Republican Party would face annihilation, and the left would elect an extremely powerful president to right the course.

In a sense it would lead to a autocratic President because the impulse would be to elect someone from the opposite end to fix things and there would be a complete collapse of support for the Right. Bannon will get his wish to destroy the Republican establishment but he might be horrified at what replaces it.

Trump is a long term disaster for the Republicans and the country.

-Define your terms, make concrete predictions.

I'm ignoring you. I told you to respect that. Thanks.

[The_Doctor]

This is why the Electors should have kept Trump out, or Obama should have declared Martial Law.

That would've been worse. He's the duly elected President. That wasn't a cure, it was a overturning of the legitimate way he won.

[pbrower2a]

America starts careening between the Hard Right and the Hard Left as the populist demagoguery simply morphs from nationalist to socialist ideologues. Moderation dies, and extremism prevails. Another is that America becomes a contest zone in its politics between superpowers.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Then we will have to cross our fingers and hope that someone will have the spine to do what needs to be done.

[Devout Centrist]

This isn't in the realm of possibilities and if it does come to pass, I will be radicalized fairly quickly.

[Devout Centrist]

The worst case is the utter destruction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. Essentially we'd be a one party system for a while (happened 1800-1840). Trump would be impeached, the Republican Party would face annihilation, and the left would elect an extremely powerful president to right the course.

In a sense it would lead to a autocratic President because the impulse would be to elect someone from the opposite end to fix things and there would be a complete collapse of support for the Right. Bannon will get his wish to destroy the Republican establishment but he might be horrified at what replaces it.

Trump is a long term disaster for the Republicans and the country.

You should probably just adopt my views and call it a day

[Trapsy]

I am trying to think of something to say but I don't know anymore this is just insane.

[KingSweden]

Then Trump needs to go, and if he does not go voluntarily, he needs to be impeached or 25A'd out. Unfortunately our Constitution doesn't have a ton of safeguards for stuff like this

[America Needs R'hllor]

Then Trump needs to go, and if he does not go voluntarily, he needs to be impeached or 25A'd out. Unfortunately our Constitution doesn't have a ton of safeguards for stuff like this

I'd say that in such a crazy scenario, a coup is more than justified.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Ok chill out man. I don't get why some people think Trump is the end of everything. He isn't, we have something called the constitution and it's a powerful beautiful piece of paper.

[ApatheticAustrian]

nothing at all.

nobody cares IF (if) trump would have only won cause of russia's meddlng....

.... and i guess putin is going to rue it too to switch the stable hostile technocrat wing (obama/hillary) against an unstable strongman.