A few questions about John McCain: "maverick;" presidential run; 2016's McCain
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« on: November 29, 2015, 06:40:39 PM »

McCain was called a maverick before he won the Republican nomination in 2008, because he was willing to go against his Party and work with Democrats. Lincoln Chafee was even more liberal than McCain and he never developed such a reputation. I wonder why Chafee (even though he left the GOP in 2007) didn't endorse McCain in 2008 (he endorsed Obama and worked on his campaign), since both were de facto mavericks and liberals within their Party. Your thoughts?

Do any political historians know when speculation about a McCain presidential run first began? Conservapedia (I know that it is clearly not the most reliable source) says speculation about a McCain run began in 1993, but I can't find a source for this claim.

Finally, is there a candidate in today's GOP field that is the equivalent of John McCain in 2000 (or Lincoln Chafee if he had run in 2000)? Who is the most "maverick" candidate currently running?

Thank you for your time. McCain's career fascinates me.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2015, 07:31:32 PM »

Lincoln Chafee was one of the last Rockefeller Republicans, by today's standards effectively a liberal Democrat with a 'R' behind his name.

From 2000 to 2008 McCain changed from a somewhat genuine centrist to a mostly party-line Republican with the occasional independent streak.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2015, 10:05:37 PM »

Lincoln Chafee was one of the last Rockefeller Republicans, by today's standards effectively a liberal Democrat with a 'R' behind his name.

From 2000 to 2008 McCain changed from a somewhat genuine centrist to a mostly party-line Republican with the occasional independent streak.
I cited Chafee as an example of a Republican Senator who is closest to McCain on the political spectrum (pre-2008). In 2001, Democrats even contacted McCain and Chafee to convince them to switch Parties (Chafee didn't oblige at the time, but did 12 years later). McCain and Chafee were also the only two Republican Senators to vote "no" to Bush tax cuts. McCain may not have been as liberal, but pre-2008, McCain probably could have been classified as a Rockefeller Republican as well.

Of the Republicans currently running, I would say those who come closest to being Rockefeller Republicans would be Lindsey Graham (who happens to have a strong allegiance to McCain, by the way). He hasn't developed a reputation as a "maverick," but he is willing to buck his Party on climate change, immigration, and Social Security. Pataki, Gilmore, and even Kasich and Trump all have some views that could be considered moderate or liberal relative to other Republicans, but I don't think any of them would qualify as "Rockefeller Republicans." Kasich is a '90's conservative, who just happens to be more moderate than his Tea Party challengers because the GOP has shifted right since the '90s. Trump, however, except for his views on immigration and the minimum wage, is pretty liberal; he just comes off as crazy and inexperienced.

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2015, 10:19:06 PM »

I don't know exactly when presidential speculation about McCain began.  I guess some time in the 1990s.  When he announced his candidacy in 1999, it hardly came as a surprise, as there'd been presidential talk about him for years.  As I recall, his name was floated in 1996 as a possible Dole running mate.
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