Carson: Raped Women who want Abortions = Slave Owners

[Blue3]

Carson: Raped Women who want Abortions = Slave Owners

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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-opposes-abortion-for-rape-victims/

[President Johnson]

This guy is scary and he is, as The Donald said, very low energy.

[MisSkeptic]

This guy is scary and he is, as The Donald said, very low energy.

I agree with you. Wish I knew what Republican voters see in this guy.

[Free Bird]

This guy is scary and he is, as The Donald said, very low energy.

I agree with you. Wish I knew what Republican voters see in this guy.

6 point lead in Virginia for one

[Brewer]

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So edgy! So brave!

[Storebought]

The Republicans are intent to revive Nicloae Ceausescu's family planning policy here in the US.

[Ljube]

It's all a matter of perspective. To the constitution, you and me, fetuses are not persons (i.e. life does not begin at conception). To Carson and those similar to him, fetuses are persons (i.e. life begins at conception). To Carson, killing that baby (fetus in our world view) is the same thing as something a slave owner would do to a slave.

At the time slavery existed, there were people who considered blacks inferior, even not human. In the minds of those slave owners and supporters of slavery, killing a slave wasn't a murder, because slaves weren't persons legally.

In the case of slavery, the view that slaves were persons prevailed. In the case of fetuses, the view that they are not persons currently holds sway. But, comparing the two situations is completely reasonable if you consider fetuses to be persons.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

It's all a matter of perspective. To the constitution, you and me, fetuses are not persons (i.e. life does not begin at conception). To Carson and those similar to him, fetuses are persons (i.e. life begins at conception). To Carson, killing that baby (fetus in our world view) is the same thing as something a slave owner would do to a slave.

At the time slavery existed, there were people who considered blacks inferior, even not human. In the minds of those slave owners and supporters of slavery, killing a slave wasn't a murder, because slaves weren't persons legally.

In the case of slavery, the view that slaves were persons prevailed. In the case of fetuses, the view that they are not persons currently holds sway. But, comparing the two situations is completely reasonable if you consider fetuses to be persons.

You are the first person in this forum's history to successfully lay out a controversial view from another perspective. I wish I could give you a medal for not living in a bubble.

[Blue3]

It's all a matter of perspective. To the constitution, you and me, fetuses are not persons (i.e. life does not begin at conception). To Carson and those similar to him, fetuses are persons (i.e. life begins at conception). To Carson, killing that baby (fetus in our world view) is the same thing as something a slave owner would do to a slave.

At the time slavery existed, there were people who considered blacks inferior, even not human. In the minds of those slave owners and supporters of slavery, killing a slave wasn't a murder, because slaves weren't persons legally.

In the case of slavery, the view that slaves were persons prevailed. In the case of fetuses, the view that they are not persons currently holds sway. But, comparing the two situations is completely reasonable if you consider fetuses to be persons.

I understand that, but do you really think comparing Raped Women to Slave Owners is the best way to persuade people? It's quite inflammatory rhetoric. It could even incite people to violence, to attack the women wanting abortions. And he's running for President.

[Ljube]

It's all a matter of perspective. To the constitution, you and me, fetuses are not persons (i.e. life does not begin at conception). To Carson and those similar to him, fetuses are persons (i.e. life begins at conception). To Carson, killing that baby (fetus in our world view) is the same thing as something a slave owner would do to a slave.

At the time slavery existed, there were people who considered blacks inferior, even not human. In the minds of those slave owners and supporters of slavery, killing a slave wasn't a murder, because slaves weren't persons legally.

In the case of slavery, the view that slaves were persons prevailed. In the case of fetuses, the view that they are not persons currently holds sway. But, comparing the two situations is completely reasonable if you consider fetuses to be persons.

I understand that, but do you really think comparing Raped Women to Slave Owners is the best way to persuade people? It's quite inflammatory rhetoric. It could even incite people to violence, to attack the women wanting abortions. And he's running for President.

John C. Fremont was such a candidate. A lot of people (me included) consider him a radical. Lincoln was also a radical, but he was more politically astute. Still, his emancipation proclamation was an executive order which quashed the laws of states in the south. As such, it was much more inflammatory than anything Carson has said.

Just like the abolitionists believed to be right and passionately stood for their beliefs, so does Carson believe he is right and to keep quiet would be against his beliefs and sense of humanity.

[Blue3]

But there are much better ways to explain his position. And his way definitely won't persuade anyone, it will just incite people on both sides.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

It's all a matter of perspective. To the constitution, you and me, fetuses are not persons (i.e. life does not begin at conception). To Carson and those similar to him, fetuses are persons (i.e. life begins at conception). To Carson, killing that baby (fetus in our world view) is the same thing as something a slave owner would do to a slave.

At the time slavery existed, there were people who considered blacks inferior, even not human. In the minds of those slave owners and supporters of slavery, killing a slave wasn't a murder, because slaves weren't persons legally.

In the case of slavery, the view that slaves were persons prevailed. In the case of fetuses, the view that they are not persons currently holds sway. But, comparing the two situations is completely reasonable if you consider fetuses to be persons.

When was the last time a slaver owner forcibly had a dick shoved up his ass and nine months later after hours of excruciating pain a slave came out of him?  Last time I checked being a slave owner was voluntary and didn't involve physical, sexual, and psychological trauma and shame for the owner.

Wish I knew what Republican voters see in this guy.

Black guy that uses slave owner imagery when describing Democrats.  I mean we have one every election now so people should be pretty familiar with the routine.  First it was Alan Keyes vs Obama.  Then it was Herman Cain and now Ben Carson.  They find these stooges to say this awful stuff so they can claim they aren't racist and support a black man.

[Ljube]

But there are much better ways to explain his position. And his way definitely won't persuade anyone, it will just incite people on both sides.

I agree that the delivery was unorthodox. But you see, Carson has had a lot of such deliveries (the US is like Nazi Germany).
However, the underlying thought and reasoning is very sound in all cases of his controversial statements. Some people fail to see that, but most people have no problem with his statements when they watch them live.
It's all part of his appeal. He is a crusader against political correctness. And most people find political correctness irritating, stifling and even disgusting, because it is artificial and false.

[Ljube]

It's all a matter of perspective. To the constitution, you and me, fetuses are not persons (i.e. life does not begin at conception). To Carson and those similar to him, fetuses are persons (i.e. life begins at conception). To Carson, killing that baby (fetus in our world view) is the same thing as something a slave owner would do to a slave.

At the time slavery existed, there were people who considered blacks inferior, even not human. In the minds of those slave owners and supporters of slavery, killing a slave wasn't a murder, because slaves weren't persons legally.

In the case of slavery, the view that slaves were persons prevailed. In the case of fetuses, the view that they are not persons currently holds sway. But, comparing the two situations is completely reasonable if you consider fetuses to be persons.

When was the last time a slaver owner forcibly had a dick shoved up his ass and nine months later after hours of excruciating pain a slave came out of him?  Last time I checked being a slave owner was voluntary and didn't involve physical, sexual, and psychological trauma and shame for the owner.

Fetuses are like slaves (no argument about that, I hope), therefore, raped, pregnant women are like slave owners, as they can do to fetuses what slave owners could do to slaves.
It is viewed from the perspective of slaves/fetuses, not slave owners/raped pregnant women.

[Kingpoleon]

But there are much better ways to explain his position. And his way definitely won't persuade anyone, it will just incite people on both sides.

It's an anology.

Biden compared economic deregulation to slavery. Wish I knew what Democrats see in the guy./s

[Likely Voter]

He previously said Obamacare = Slavery. So does that mean that Obamacare rapes women?

Anyway he is the king of hyperbole, throwing around comparisons to nazis and slavery left and right. That is why his seemingly good GE polling numbers are a joke. At a casual glance he seems like a nice man and he is obviously intelligent and accomplished and was even subject of a movie, but once regular folk find out what is going on behind those droopy eyes, it will be a whole other story.