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« on: September 11, 2015, 12:36:58 AM »



http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2015, 12:42:15 AM »

God save us all.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2015, 12:43:56 AM »

Your point? Obama trailed Mitt Romney at this point in 2011. These polls are ultimately meaningless until January at the earliest.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2015, 12:50:09 AM »

Your point? Obama trailed Mitt Romney at this point in 2011. These polls are ultimately meaningless until January at the earliest.

My point is that she's not inevitable.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2015, 12:57:20 AM »

This is what happens when spineless media companies with no moral direction other than the almighty ratings endlessly show wall to wall coverage of a demagogue.

Best case scenario is that this is a sign of Clinton's weakness and not of Trump's strength. It's late but not impossible that some fresh faces may challenge the Clintonian old guard.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2015, 12:58:34 AM »

Considering who Trump is and that he would be ten times as crazy in a general election campaign, I'm not worried about Clinton's prospects of winning.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2015, 01:07:48 AM »

Considering who Trump is and that he would be ten times as crazy in a general election campaign, I'm not worried about Clinton's prospects of winning.

You should be worried.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2015, 01:11:32 AM »

Donald Trump can not win a general election. He will be destroyed by the Democrats; he will do worse than any Republican in modern memory with women and hispanics, he will not do well with catholics, and independents don't like him at all. Some Republicans, like me, will vote third party.

This is extremely early. Trump is doing quite well, Clinton is beginning to be weakened. She's not her husband, she's bad at retail politics.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2015, 01:17:05 AM »

Donald Trump can not win a general election. He will be destroyed by the Democrats; he will do worse than any Republican in modern memory with women and hispanics, he will not do well with catholics, and independents don't like him at all. Some Republicans, like me, will vote third party.

This is extremely early. Trump is doing quite well, Clinton is beginning to be weakened. She's not her husband, she's bad at retail politics.

Hillary still leads Jeb 47.6-44.5, although that's tightening, too.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2015, 01:23:52 AM »

Dunald'd.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2015, 01:24:30 AM »

Donald Trump can not win a general election. He will be destroyed by the Democrats; he will do worse than any Republican in modern memory with women and hispanics, he will not do well with catholics, and independents don't like him at all. Some Republicans, like me, will vote third party.

This is extremely early. Trump is doing quite well, Clinton is beginning to be weakened. She's not her husband, she's bad at retail politics.

Hillary still leads Jeb 47.6-44.5, although that's tightening, too.

Long term though, Governor Bush and Senator Rubio are the most electable candidates because they can win over hispanic voters, they'd do the best with female voters, they can win the catholic vote, and their views appeal to centrist voters more than most of the other candidates. Rand Paul and John Kasich may also be able to win.

So far, Rubio appears to be the strongest general election candidate, Bush is second, Paul third, Kasich fourth. That's just my observation though.

Also, the liberal Huffington Post wants to run against Trump because Trump would lose 38-40 states. The irony is he'd do everything they want him to, except on illegal immigration.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2015, 03:19:46 AM »

Hermain Cain was beating Obama at this stage in 2011
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2015, 05:56:59 AM »

The trend is the most important thing here, and the trend is clear.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2015, 07:19:46 AM »

It is skewed by the Emerson poll that has whites at 80% of the vote, and the SurveyUSA that has Trump winning 25% of blacks.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2015, 09:21:18 AM »

Your point? Obama trailed Mitt Romney at this point in 2011. These polls are ultimately meaningless until January at the earliest.

My point is that she's not inevitable.

The only people who claimed that she was "inevitable" were forum hacks on this site and some moronic pundits stirring that narrative in the media (who look worse and worse everyday as Trump continues to surge). There was always a potential for a left-wing insurgent candidate and the general will be close.

Of course, is you're a true leftist that reflexively hates Hillary and sees the worst in everything she does, I suppose it's convenient to propagate the fallacious "BUT SHE WAS SO INEVITABLE" narrative.
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2015, 09:29:22 AM »

The trend is the most important thing here, and the trend is clear.

If the trend continues Trump will wind up with 95% of the vote!
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2015, 09:30:31 AM »

The trend is the most important thing here, and the trend is clear.

If the trend continues Trump will wind up with 95% of the vote!

I think he can break 100%.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2015, 03:41:08 PM »

Your point? Obama trailed Mitt Romney at this point in 2011. These polls are ultimately meaningless until January at the earliest.

My point is that she's not inevitable.

The only people who claimed that she was "inevitable" were forum hacks on this site and some moronic pundits stirring that narrative in the media (who look worse and worse everyday as Trump continues to surge). There was always a potential for a left-wing insurgent candidate and the general will be close.

Of course, is you're a true leftist that reflexively hates Hillary and sees the worst in everything she does, I suppose it's convenient to propagate the fallacious "BUT SHE WAS SO INEVITABLE" narrative.

Lots of people were claiming she was inevitable. There are still people who think she'll easily beat Trump. Lots of people are still supporting Hillary purely because she is supposedly very electable. 

Also, calling any Democrat who doesn't support Hillary a "true leftist" is absurd. Sanders is no where as liberal as Corbyn, for example.
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