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« on: August 26, 2015, 02:45:04 PM »
« edited: August 26, 2015, 03:36:46 PM by Thinking Crumpets Crumpet »

Inspired by the "post pictures of typical supporters thread," who do you see as the absolutely sure voters for each candidate? Who, even if everything goes south, will still go to caucus for them and argue passionately for their candidacy?

My guesses:

Hillary Clinton: Single, middle-aged mother, successful in her business career, probably a minority
Joe Biden: Working class, older, white man who is still socially and fiscally left-of-center, probably from the Rust Belt, but is generally skeptical of the whole "PC culture" thing.
Bernie Sanders: White, male, upper-middle-class college student. Big fan of Noam Chomsky.
Martin O'Malley: Someone to the left of Hillary Clinton and the right of Bernie Sanders, probably someone who thinks they're smarter and pay more attention to politics than the common folk. They think Sanders is un-electable and Clinton is corrupt.
Jim Webb: Older Appalachian man who works in the coal industry. Hasn't voted for president since Clinton in 1996, and is generally pro-union, but socially conservative.
Lincoln Chafee: Rich New England Democrat who wants socially liberal policies without having to pay more in taxes. Enthusiastic supporter of the Kennedys, and frequent host of evening soirees.

Jeb Bush: Someone who approved of George Bush even in the dark months at the end of his second term, but was never fond of the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rove wing of the administration. Probably a big city white man with a good-paying job, a wife, and kids, but not necessarily a one-percenter.
Donald Trump: Center-right man who rarely votes due to the belief that the government is one big, corrupt, amorphous blob who's sole intention is to squeeze the freedom from everyday people.
Scott Walker: Conservative, Mid-western farmer who thinks that he is the most conservative electable candidate.
John Kasich: Members of a "college Republicans" group who aren't Libertarians.
Marco Rubio: Old Floridian lady who thinks "he's such a nice, handsome boy" and wants to see a new generation take over the party.
Ben Carson: Someone who passively follows politics, but likes the idea of a well-educated black man who is not a career politician leading the party. Maybe the wife of a rich man from the South who is worried that Ferguson and Baltimore will grow and become more violent.
Rand Paul: Young, white, male, college student who thinks the future of the party is Libertarianism, but isn't concerned with ideological purity.
Mike Huckabee: Older woman who goes to church twice a week. Likes to remind people that America is a "Christian nation."
Ted Cruz: Voted for George Wallace in 1968, starts sentences with "now I'm not a racist, but..."
Carly Fiorina: Rich, middle-aged, "career" woman from Orange County, California.
Chris Christie: Some guy named Tony from New Jersey who thinks he's in the mob.
Rick Perry: Enthusiastic George W. Bush supporter who is a young white man from Texas. Thinks Jeb has "gone soft."
Bobby Jindal: 2nd generation immigrant from a very religious and conservative family, but who is not Cuban.
Rick Santorum: A younger version of the Mike Huckabee supporter. A young, religious girl who thinks that her classmates who wear low-cut shirts are prostitutes and are going to hell.
George Pataki: Wealthy New York City businessman who had friends who died on 9/11. Thinks Trump is ridiculous and brash, but probably knows him personally.
Lindsey Graham: John McCain
Jim Gilmore: CIA analyst who works in Langley, and whose life improved dramatically during Gilmore's tenure as governor.
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2015, 03:35:32 PM »

So... Biden is a more fiscally left-wing Paul Tsongas?

I honestly see College Democrats as supporting Biden and O'Malley. College Republicans? It depends. Some are very... Extreme, but most are probably split between Paul and Kasich.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2015, 09:57:35 PM »

So... Biden is a more fiscally left-wing Paul Tsongas?

I honestly see College Democrats as supporting Biden and O'Malley. College Republicans? It depends. Some are very... Extreme, but most are probably split between Paul and Kasich.

I will say that most younger Republicans prefer candidates other than Kasich and Paul.  Rubio won the CRNC's straw poll this summer, and Walker nearly won the CPAC poll.  In fact, most I know are Rubio/Walker/Cruz before you get to Paul.  Generally not Trump, though.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2015, 10:12:52 PM »

College Republicans seem very Cruz-ish, IMO

Jim Gilmore's Base: Jim Gilmore, Roxane Gilmore, John Hager
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 12:45:49 AM »

Many George Wallace voters are rallying behind Trump, who's base includes some young anti-eshtablisment voters, and tough guys who want a strong willed leader in office. Young anti-establishment voters may also like Paul, but he straddles the line between his father and a typical Republican.

Sanders is getting more of the "I need/want free stuff" vote than Clinton, but Clinton still has much stronger name recognition.

I saw polls that showed Ben Carson polling strong among female voters in Iowa, because he has a very calming tone. He seems to attract conservative doves if that makes sense.

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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 08:28:53 AM »

Lincoln Chafee's base: Lincoln Chafee
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 09:53:13 AM »

Hillary Clinton: Women aged 18-45
Bernie Sanders: Young professionals who opposed the Iraq War and middle-aged former hippies
Martin O'Malley: White males aged 45-60 who are very liberal
Jim Webb: Southern Democrats over the age of 40
Lincoln Chafee: College professors
Jeb Bush: Middle and upper middle income white collars above age 40
Marco Rubio: Middle and upper middle income white collars 18-40
Rand Paul: Young professionals
John Kasich: Midwestern middle-income family people in mid-level positions
Scott Walker: Religious Midwestern middle-income family people
Ted Cruz: White men and women in the tea party, mainly blue collar but some white collar
Ben Carson: Men and women aged 50 and above, mainly white collar and in the tea party
Donald Trump: Blue collars of all ages
Mike Huckabee: White collar religious evangelical and baptists
Rick Santorum: Blue collar religious evangelical and baptists
Carly Fiorina: Young professional and wealthy women
Jim Gilmore: A few people in Virginia?
George Pataki: Older moderate Republicans
Lindsey Graham: Veterans
Chris Christie: Italian Americans and northeastern moderate voters, mainly ages 40-60
Bobby Jindal: Religious tea party voters above age 40
Rick Perry: Southern establishment voters aged 40-60
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 02:45:15 PM »

Hillary Clinton is winning over 40% of registered Democrats, and you think her "base" is successful business people?  LOL, okay.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2015, 12:53:16 AM »

Inspired by the "post pictures of typical supporters thread," who do you see as the absolutely sure voters for each candidate? Who, even if everything goes south, will still go to caucus for them and argue passionately for their candidacy?

My guesses:

Hillary Clinton: Single, middle-aged mother, successful in her business career, probably a minority
Joe Biden: Working class, older, white man who is still socially and fiscally left-of-center, probably from the Rust Belt, but is generally skeptical of the whole "PC culture" thing.
Bernie Sanders: White, male, upper-middle-class college student. Big fan of Noam Chomsky.
Martin O'Malley: Someone to the left of Hillary Clinton and the right of Bernie Sanders, probably someone who thinks they're smarter and pay more attention to politics than the common folk. They think Sanders is un-electable and Clinton is corrupt.
Jim Webb: Older Appalachian man who works in the coal industry. Hasn't voted for president since Clinton in 1996, and is generally pro-union, but socially conservative.
Lincoln Chafee: Rich New England Democrat who wants socially liberal policies without having to pay more in taxes. Enthusiastic supporter of the Kennedys, and frequent host of evening soirees.

Jeb Bush: Someone who approved of George Bush even in the dark months at the end of his second term, but was never fond of the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rove wing of the administration. Probably a big city white man with a good-paying job, a wife, and kids, but not necessarily a one-percenter.
Donald Trump: Center-right man who rarely votes due to the belief that the government is one big, corrupt, amorphous blob who's sole intention is to squeeze the freedom from everyday people.
Scott Walker: Conservative, Mid-western farmer who thinks that he is the most conservative electable candidate.
John Kasich: Members of a "college Republicans" group who aren't Libertarians.
Marco Rubio: Old Floridian lady who thinks "he's such a nice, handsome boy" and wants to see a new generation take over the party.
Ben Carson: Someone who passively follows politics, but likes the idea of a well-educated black man who is not a career politician leading the party. Maybe the wife of a rich man from the South who is worried that Ferguson and Baltimore will grow and become more violent.
Rand Paul: Young, white, male, college student who thinks the future of the party is Libertarianism, but isn't concerned with ideological purity.
Mike Huckabee: Older woman who goes to church twice a week. Likes to remind people that America is a "Christian nation."
Ted Cruz: Voted for George Wallace in 1968, starts sentences with "now I'm not a racist, but..."
Carly Fiorina: Rich, middle-aged, "career" woman from Orange County, California.
Chris Christie: Some guy named Tony from New Jersey who thinks he's in the mob.
Rick Perry: Enthusiastic George W. Bush supporter who is a young white man from Texas. Thinks Jeb has "gone soft."
Bobby Jindal: 2nd generation immigrant from a very religious and conservative family, but who is not Cuban.
Rick Santorum: A younger version of the Mike Huckabee supporter. A young, religious girl who thinks that her classmates who wear low-cut shirts are prostitutes and are going to hell.
George Pataki: Wealthy New York City businessman who had friends who died on 9/11. Thinks Trump is ridiculous and brash, but probably knows him personally.
Lindsey Graham: John McCain
Jim Gilmore: CIA analyst who works in Langley, and whose life improved dramatically during Gilmore's tenure as governor.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2015, 12:59:44 AM »

Inspired by the "post pictures of typical supporters thread," who do you see as the absolutely sure voters for each candidate? Who, even if everything goes south, will still go to caucus for them and argue passionately for their candidacy?

My guesses:

Hillary Clinton: Single, middle-aged mother, successful in her business career, probably a minority
Joe Biden: Working class, older, white man who is still socially and fiscally left-of-center, probably from the Rust Belt, but is generally skeptical of the whole "PC culture" thing.
Bernie Sanders: White, male, upper-middle-class college student. Big fan of Noam Chomsky.
Martin O'Malley: Someone to the left of Hillary Clinton and the right of Bernie Sanders, probably someone who thinks they're smarter and pay more attention to politics than the common folk. They think Sanders is un-electable and Clinton is corrupt.
Jim Webb: Older Appalachian man who works in the coal industry. Hasn't voted for president since Clinton in 1996, and is generally pro-union, but socially conservative.
Lincoln Chafee: Rich New England Democrat who wants socially liberal policies without having to pay more in taxes. Enthusiastic supporter of the Kennedys, and frequent host of evening soirees.

Jeb Bush: Someone who approved of George Bush even in the dark months at the end of his second term, but was never fond of the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rove wing of the administration. Probably a big city white man with a good-paying job, a wife, and kids, but not necessarily a one-percenter.
Donald Trump: Center-right man who rarely votes due to the belief that the government is one big, corrupt, amorphous blob who's sole intention is to squeeze the freedom from everyday people.
Scott Walker: Conservative, Mid-western farmer who thinks that he is the most conservative electable candidate.
John Kasich: Members of a "college Republicans" group who aren't Libertarians.
Marco Rubio: Old Floridian lady who thinks "he's such a nice, handsome boy" and wants to see a new generation take over the party.
Ben Carson: Someone who passively follows politics, but likes the idea of a well-educated black man who is not a career politician leading the party. Maybe the wife of a rich man from the South who is worried that Ferguson and Baltimore will grow and become more violent.
Rand Paul: Young, white, male, college student who thinks the future of the party is Libertarianism, but isn't concerned with ideological purity.
Mike Huckabee: Older woman who goes to church twice a week. Likes to remind people that America is a "Christian nation."
Ted Cruz: Voted for George Wallace in 1968, starts sentences with "now I'm not a racist, but..."
Carly Fiorina: Rich, middle-aged, "career" woman from Orange County, California.
Chris Christie: Some guy named Tony from New Jersey who thinks he's in the mob.
Rick Perry: Enthusiastic George W. Bush supporter who is a young white man from Texas. Thinks Jeb has "gone soft."
Bobby Jindal: 2nd generation immigrant from a very religious and conservative family, but who is not Cuban.
Rick Santorum: A younger version of the Mike Huckabee supporter. A young, religious girl who thinks that her classmates who wear low-cut shirts are prostitutes and are going to hell.
George Pataki: Wealthy New York City businessman who had friends who died on 9/11. Thinks Trump is ridiculous and brash, but probably knows him personally.
Lindsey Graham: John McCain
Jim Gilmore: CIA analyst who works in Langley, and whose life improved dramatically during Gilmore's tenure as governor.

How much time did you spend in this?

Maybe 10-15 minutes, although not all in one go.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2015, 01:16:07 AM »

The correct answer for O'Malley is "contrarians."
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2015, 11:24:26 AM »

So... Biden is a more fiscally left-wing Paul Tsongas?

I honestly see College Democrats as supporting Biden and O'Malley. College Republicans? It depends. Some are very... Extreme, but most are probably split between Paul and Kasich.

College Democrats support Sanders, which is the most obvious thing in the world.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 01:58:04 PM »


Hillary Clinton: Minorities, women, generic Democratic professionals
Bernie Sanders: Students, former hippie baby boomers, Socialists
Joe Biden: Anti-Hillary establishment voters, Blue Collar Catholic Dems, Southerners
Martin O'Malley: Young left leaning upper middle class professionals wary of both socialists and Hillary, tech oriented
Jim Webb: Reagan Democrats who will vote Republican in the general, The few remaining Yellow Dogs
Lincoln Chafee: Himself
Lawrence Lessig: A few professors

Jill Stein: A couple of students here and there

Gary Johnson: Pothead Republicans, Survivalists

Jeb Bush: Suburban mainline Protestant families
Marco Rubio: Catholics, 30,40-something Republicans
Rand Paul: Republican students, Libertarian leaning Republicans
John Kasich: Moderate middle class midwesterners, compassionate conservatives
Scott Walker: Right leaning evangelicals, upper Midwestern rural inhabitants
Ted Cruz: Tea Partiers in the West, people who detest Obama with every fiber of their body
Ben Carson: Black Republicans, anti-establishment middle aged and elderly folks, deeply religious people, closet racists
Donald Trump: Blue collar low-info voters, rust belt inhabitants, nationalists, angry people
Mike Huckabee: Populist Baptist Southerners
Rick Santorum: Blue collar Rust Belt Catholics
Carly Fiorina: Rich professional women, Rich suburban Republicans, a few younger Republicans
Jim Gilmore: Virginians, old people
George Pataki: A few New England Rockefeller Republicans, Democrat-leaning independents in open primary states
Lindsey Graham: Vets, Upper Middle Class Southerners
Chris Christie: Ethnic white Northeasterners, moderate Mid-Atlantic suburbanites
Bobby Jindal: Evangelicals, Southerners, wealthy
Rick Perry: Texans, conservative blue collar rural voters
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