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Eraserhead
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« on: June 14, 2015, 01:56:33 PM »

Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: TrueFederalist/Ernest   on: June 05, 2015, 06:09:06 am

Quote from: Eraserhead on June 05, 2015, 06:09:06 am
Just join the new forum, people. There'll be no more edits on your posts.

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Seriously? How was that inappropriate? Honesty is inappropriate here now.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2015, 02:04:24 PM »

OK, that's utterly ridiculous. Is Ernest thinking that, with Inks gone, the forum really needs another insane mod?
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2015, 02:14:16 PM »

The rumblings of war are beginning!
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2015, 02:27:44 PM »

OK, that's utterly ridiculous. Is Ernest thinking that, with Inks gone, the forum really needs another insane mod?

I know you're not a big fan of the new forum but I do appreciate your impartiality here, Antonio.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2015, 02:30:30 PM »

Again, Ernest had nothing to do with either that report or the infraction.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2015, 03:05:35 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2015, 03:24:57 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2015, 03:26:45 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2015, 03:28:35 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

Rather than me speculate, why don't you ask him?
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2015, 03:30:10 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

It's pretty clear. The discussion control that's been seen from Ernest and the likes has evolved into outright censorship.

At this point, between the general inactivity concerns, the blatant defense of someone who was making false accusations of death threats against half the forum, and now, censorship of anything about AAD, Nym should probably be removed as admin.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2015, 03:35:10 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

It's pretty clear. The discussion control that's been seen from Ernest and the likes has evolved into outright censorship.

At this point, between the general inactivity concerns, the blatant defense of someone who was making false accusations of death threats against half the forum, and now, censorship of anything about AAD, Nym should probably be removed as admin.

Death threats?  Did I miss something?
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2015, 03:37:17 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

It's pretty clear. The discussion control that's been seen from Ernest and the likes has evolved into outright censorship.

At this point, between the general inactivity concerns, the blatant defense of someone who was making false accusations of death threats against half the forum, and now, censorship of anything about AAD, Nym should probably be removed as admin.

Death threats?  Did I miss something?

Not death threats themselves - false accusations of people making death threats towards a certain poster. I'm referring to the solarstorm incident.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2015, 03:47:21 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

It's pretty clear. The discussion control that's been seen from Ernest and the likes has evolved into outright censorship.

At this point, between the general inactivity concerns, the blatant defense of someone who was making false accusations of death threats against half the forum, and now, censorship of anything about AAD, Nym should probably be removed as admin.

Death threats?  Did I miss something?

Not death threats themselves - false accusations of people making death threats towards a certain poster. I'm referring to the solarstorm incident.

Well solarstorm was a weird case of someone who did not do much wrong, he was just paranoid. Anyway, Nym was not the one who slowed things down. Rather it was certain other mods, including myself, who were hoping he would calm down.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2015, 03:54:28 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

It's pretty clear. The discussion control that's been seen from Ernest and the likes has evolved into outright censorship.

At this point, between the general inactivity concerns, the blatant defense of someone who was making false accusations of death threats against half the forum, and now, censorship of anything about AAD, Nym should probably be removed as admin.

Death threats?  Did I miss something?

Not death threats themselves - false accusations of people making death threats towards a certain poster. I'm referring to the solarstorm incident.

Well solarstorm was a weird case of someone who did not do much wrong, he was just paranoid. Anyway, Nym was not the one who slowed things down. Rather it was certain other mods, including myself, who were hoping he would calm down.

So I've heard. Honestly, it seems like Nym was taking his side.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2015, 03:56:57 PM »

Perhaps Nym deleted the commentary because it was veering off of the original topic more than anything. Until there's a blatant forum-wide crackdown or someone asks him about it, we just won't know for sure.
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2015, 04:05:47 PM »

LOL, looks like Nym is cracking down in a last ditch effort to hold on to this place.

I strongly doubt that was Nym's motivation. Anyway, you guys are still managing to generate plenty of publicity here for AAD, so be happy.

Do you have a theory on what his motivation may have been then?

It's pretty clear. The discussion control that's been seen from Ernest and the likes has evolved into outright censorship.

At this point, between the general inactivity concerns, the blatant defense of someone who was making false accusations of death threats against half the forum, and now, censorship of anything about AAD, Nym should probably be removed as admin.

Death threats?  Did I miss something?

Not death threats themselves - false accusations of people making death threats towards a certain poster. I'm referring to the solarstorm incident.

Well solarstorm was a weird case of someone who did not do much wrong, he was just paranoid. Anyway, Nym was not the one who slowed things down. Rather it was certain other mods, including myself, who were hoping he would calm down.

So I've heard. Honestly, it seems like Nym was taking his side.

That was at the suggestion of certain other Mods again. Nym was not the point person on the solar storm matter. In fact, in general, Nym follows the consensus of the Mods, although on that one, it was more two or three Mods that were involved, again including myself. Demonizing Nym is really a red herring here in general. He is anything but high handed. He tries to handle things in a collegial manner. But the atlas board is his to moderate in particular, as a mere mod as it were rather than as moderator in chief  administrator, just as other mods moderate their boards, exercising their own best judgment. And sure, sometimes we make mistakes, or deal with close cases. In close cases, sometimes I ask for advice, and indeed forum feedback, if it is a policy issue.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2015, 04:41:55 PM »


Seriously? How was that inappropriate?

There's no concern for objective criteria with things like this; it's just vindictiveness by whoever has the power to issue demerits or whatever.
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2015, 04:59:19 PM »

At the end of the day, I don't really care that much about it because I don't plan on posting on here very much anymore as it is.

I just find the level of pettiness involved to be amusing.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2015, 06:30:17 PM »

I can't fathom why Nym would've deleted that post, but the fact is discussion of AAD in the Mod Cave is next to nothing. hate to burst the rebel bubble here.

i joined AAD yesterday and wish it well, but the constant'blows against th empire is a tad precious.

You guys set up an alternate website, not storm the Death Star.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2015, 06:41:25 PM »

I can't fathom why Nym would've deleted that post, but the fact is discussion of AAD in the Mod Cave is next to nothing. hate to burst the rebel bubble here.

i joined AAD yesterday and wish it well, but the constant'blows against th empire is a tad precious.

You guys set up an alternate website, not storm the Death Star.

...yet.  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2015, 07:00:53 PM »

The post was deleted for veering from the original topic/trolling. In retrospect I probably should've assigned only one point to it instead of three.

Regarding Solarstorm, I was merely stating forum policy, as well as attempting to counsel him as a fellow human being. I was not offering any opinion regarding the validity of any specific posts/accusations.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2015, 09:37:50 PM »
« Edited: June 16, 2015, 09:40:50 PM by Eraserhead »

The post was deleted for veering from the original topic/trolling. In retrospect I probably should've assigned only one point to it instead of three.

How is it trolling to mention the existence of an alternative political forum with relatively lax moderation? Seemed to be pretty on-topic considering that the thread was about one of the more controversial Atlas Forum moderators and the increasingly draconian moderation of the forum in general.

But those infraction points/the deletion of my post are kind of helping me to prove my point anyway so I guess I should really thank you for your actions here. Thanks!

By the way, you're welcome to join us on the new forum if you'd like, Nym.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2015, 03:35:26 AM »

We're seriously going to delete posts for being off-topic now? That literally means chopping off 20-25% of this forum's posts.
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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2015, 06:10:09 PM »

Just out of curiosity, how does one become a mod?
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