Rubio: WAr In Iraq not wrong

[bobloblaw]

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/242339-rubio-iraq-invasion-was-not-a-mistake


Well scratch him from the list. This and his promise to raid marijuana dispensaries disqualifies him.


Right now for me it is Walker or Ill support Hildawg.

Until the GOP repudiates the Iraq War and repudiates GW Bush administration, they wont and dont deserve to win.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I was already cautious about Rubio over him withdrawing his support for his own immigration reform bill, but this removes any doubt that he's anything more than a less grassroots version of Cruz.

If he's the nominee, I'll probably vote Hillary.

[bedstuy]

Why does anyone like Marco Rubio?  Is it just that he's a Hispanic Senator from a swing state who doesn't have a John Kasich "Catcher's mitt got left out in the rain" face?

Rubio seems like a tool and he's a poor speaker.  He talks like his mouth is full of marbles and he has a weird intonation.  I don't get it.

[IceSpear]

Why does anyone like Marco Rubio?  Is it just that he's a Hispanic Senator from a swing state who doesn't have a John Kasich "Catcher's mitt got left out in the rain" face?

Rubio seems like a tool and he's a poor speaker.  He talks like his mouth is full of marbles and he has a weird intonation.  I don't get it.

The media's been fawning over him as the "Republican Obama" for years now, and it seems to finally be trickling down to the actual voters.

[Likely Voter]

watch the actual interview clip with Rubio and Fox's Chris Wallace
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-chris-wallace-grills-rubio-on-his-iraq-war-flip/

Rubio seems confused and petulant and it is a bit of a trainwreck. He seems to be saying that he wouldn't have invaded Iraq knowing there were no WMDs, but that it wasn't a mistake to invade Iraq.

[King]

As I've said over and over, Hillary is easily beatable, but she has a 99% chance of winning this election, teetering on 100% every time a Republican candidate opens their mouth.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Why does anyone like Marco Rubio?  Is it just that he's a Hispanic Senator from a swing state who doesn't have a John Kasich "Catcher's mitt got left out in the rain" face?

Rubio seems like a tool and he's a poor speaker.  He talks like his mouth is full of marbles and he has a weird intonation.  I don't get it.

Republicans have been searching for the Great Non-White Hope for years now. A non-threatening minority candidate that they can run nationally in an effort to convince people that they aren't racists. Colin Powell wisely didn't want anything to do with the presidency, Herman Cain turned out to have a nasty habit of sexually assaulting women, Brian Sandoval isn't running, and Ben Carson was doomed from the outset.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Why does anyone like Marco Rubio?  Is it just that he's a Hispanic Senator from a swing state who doesn't have a John Kasich "Catcher's mitt got left out in the rain" face?

Rubio seems like a tool and he's a poor speaker.  He talks like his mouth is full of marbles and he has a weird intonation.  I don't get it.

Republicans have been searching for the Great Non-White Hope for years now. A non-threatening minority candidate that they can run nationally in an effort to convince people that they aren't racists. Colin Powell wisely didn't want anything to do with the presidency, Herman Cain turned out to have a nasty habit of sexually assaulting women, Brian Sandoval isn't running, and Ben Carson was doomed from the outset.

To be fair, Cain wouldn't have won the primary even without the sexual allegations. The man was a living disaster on foreign policy, and his 999 plan drew significant opposition from both parties.

[Bull Moose Base]

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/242339-rubio-iraq-invasion-was-not-a-mistake


Well scratch him from the list. This and his promise to raid marijuana dispensaries disqualifies him.


Right now for me it is Walker or Ill support Hildawg.

Until the GOP repudiates the Iraq War and repudiates GW Bush administration, they wont and dont deserve to win.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/15/scott-walker-on-iraq-knowing-what-we-know-now-we-should-not-have-gone-in/

Here's Walker, giving essentially the same answer as Rubio and Jeb and "enormous credit" to W.

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[Slander and/or Libel]

watch the actual interview clip with Rubio and Fox's Chris Wallace
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-chris-wallace-grills-rubio-on-his-iraq-war-flip/

Rubio seems confused and petulant and it is a bit of a trainwreck. He seems to be saying that he wouldn't have invaded Iraq knowing there were no WMDs, but that it wasn't a mistake to invade Iraq.

I've read the transcript and not seen the actual interview, and I'm certainly not a Rubio supporter in any case, but it seems to me that the question is a hot mess, and the answer Rubio is trying to get at is legitimate so far as it goes. Usually politicians trying to dodge the question irritate me, but this question is such a silly gotcha that it only really matters to me insofar as it makes news when it's able to COMPLETELY trip people up like it did with Bush.

[Torie]

watch the actual interview clip with Rubio and Fox's Chris Wallace
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-chris-wallace-grills-rubio-on-his-iraq-war-flip/

Rubio seems confused and petulant and it is a bit of a trainwreck. He seems to be saying that he wouldn't have invaded Iraq knowing there were no WMDs, but that it wasn't a mistake to invade Iraq.

I've read the transcript and not seen the actual interview, and I'm certainly not a Rubio supporter in any case, but it seems to me that the question is a hot mess, and the answer Rubio is trying to get at is legitimate so far as it goes. Usually politicians trying to dodge the question irritate me, but this question is such a silly gotcha that it only really matters to me insofar as it makes news when it's able to COMPLETELY trip people up like it did with Bush.

Rubio was in trouble because of that first clip where he had said in a prior interview that he didn't think it a mistake to go into Iraq, and there was no predicate as to whether it was information that we knew then, or what we know now. Rubio mishandled it because he should have said he interpreted the question as assuming it was based on only information known then. He should have made clear at the time, that his decision would have been different based on what we know now.

I think upon further reflection myself that it was a mistake to go into Iraq based on what we knew at the time, because there was no need to rush, the evidence of WMD's was based mostly on the word of one unreliable source, and very sketchy satellite photos, and in all events, mission creep was a mistake because instead of just getting rid of WMD's that turned out not to exist, the mission became regime change, and we ended up being in the middle of a civil war. Sometimes the horrible person you have, is better than what ensues after deposing such a person.

Wallace didn't give Rubio any breaks and badgered him, but Rubio made himself vulnerable to that by not explaining right out of the box his assumption as to what the first question meant, and if one assumed it meant something else, his answer would have changed, drawing the distinction himself in answering between what we knew then and now. By not fessing up that he could have answered the question better shown in the clip, Wallace beat him up over Rubio's lack of a confession in essence. Rubio is not very skilled in these back and forth exchanges. I also find his set speech delivery style monotonal and rather robotic, such that it seems excessively scripted. Rubio's acting skills are also not up to par.

[Slander and/or Libel]

Oh, I agree. I think Rubio botched things completely. He didn't conduct himself well, and that reflects poorly on him.

I think the war was a mistake based on what we knew then as well, but I understand that there's always going to be disagreement on that, and insofar as that's a legitimate position, I don't really see a problem with Rubio taking it.

[pbrower2a]

It's really simple. The Nuremberg and Tokyo trials established that military aggression has no justification -- that it is a war crime. The United States participated in both tribunals and its prosecutors pushed the concept that both the sneak attack and diplomatic bullying are crimes against peace.   

[Suburbia]

They are a lot of Americans who believe that the war in Iraq was right. Saddam is dead.

[bobloblaw]

I was already cautious about Rubio over him withdrawing his support for his own immigration reform bill, but this removes any doubt that he's anything more than a less grassroots version of Cruz.

If he's the nominee, I'll probably vote Hillary.

I like your POV.

I dont like him because he isnt conservative enough and for you he is too conservative. His flip flops only cost votes dont gain them.

My red lines are:
Restrict Immigration
Must admit Iraq was a mistake
Letting states legalize marijuana

If the GOP candidate doesnt do 2 of 3, I cant support them.

[bobloblaw]

They are a lot of Americans who believe that the war in Iraq was right. Saddam is dead.

Not enough to win 270 EVs

[HAnnA MArin County]

Rubio is somewhat of a Palin candidate (a "good on paper" candidate), but like most Republicans, once he opens his mouth and starts talking, he'll self-implode. The media adores him only because he's a "high-profile" young Hispanic senator from a swing state.

[Free Bird]

I'll just leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUB9QGKCNmI